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All Forum Posts by: Dan G.

Dan G. has started 8 posts and replied 31 times.

Post: Which cities in the US have the best rental properties?

Dan G.Posted
  • Fort Lauderdale, FL
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 2

Hi Jay,

I researched the sinkhole insurance and my understanding is that it only covers catastrophic loss - damage so severe that the government has declared the house to be uninhabitable. Any sinkhole damage short of that would have to be fixed out of pocket. 

I do understand that high cap rate properties have more headaches but I was planning on having everything managed by a property manager. 

Yes, I am the nervous type - I believe in Murphy's Law and I want to take as little risk as possible. Every area has pluses and minuses but I am looking for a sweet-spot where the risks are relatively low for the ROI I would be getting.

Thanks, 

Dan

Post: Which cities in the US have the best rental properties?

Dan G.Posted
  • Fort Lauderdale, FL
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Len Grosso:

Are you including a possible deflation in the house value in your calculations?

Some of the high caps are in areas that also experience high value swings when housing gets challenged.  

 No, I wasn't taking that into account. How do I add that to my calculations? I'm not familiar with the particular areas that are prone to depreciation. 

Thanks! 

Post: Which cities in the US have the best rental properties?

Dan G.Posted
  • Fort Lauderdale, FL
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@Dan G.  Orlando  fits the bill for you I believe.. CBS  high cap rates large mutli dimensional city No income tax and something you can probably drive to in a realativily reasonable time frame

 Thanks Jay. My concern with Orlando is that the area is known for having a lot of sinkholes, which are relatively rare but still do happen. And I would also be worried that the next time we have a big economic recession or depression, it could affect tourism in Orlando which in turn could affect employment and lead to evictions and vacancies. 

Post: Which cities in the US have the best rental properties?

Dan G.Posted
  • Fort Lauderdale, FL
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 2

I'm new to this, but if there are areas where CBS construction is unnecessary then I would be open to non-CBS construction. 

Post: Which cities in the US have the best rental properties?

Dan G.Posted
  • Fort Lauderdale, FL
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Jason Hawk:

You should consider Kansas City. Great property prices and good ROI. Is definitely a good growth city with a lot of potential for holding property. Feel free to give me a shout! Always like to help if I can.

 Thanks Jason.  Kansas City, Kansas, or Kansas City, Missouri?  What kind of cap rates could I expect to make there?

Post: Which cities in the US have the best rental properties?

Dan G.Posted
  • Fort Lauderdale, FL
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 2

I forgot to include that I don't want to buy houses anywhere that has state/city income tax and I also don't want to buy in an area that is totally reliant on one company or one industry, such as a town where almost everyone works at a single manufacturing plant or a town that relies on a single industry such as oil.  Places like that have an extra element of risk, I believe.

I'm looking for CBS because  one thing I don't want to ever have to worry about is the basic structure of the house.  

Thanks!

Post: Which cities in the US have the best rental properties?

Dan G.Posted
  • Fort Lauderdale, FL
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 2

Hello, 

My name is Dan and I'm new to Bigger Pockets and to real estate investing. There aren't many great deals in my area so I'm thinking about investing out-of-state and using a property manager. Where in the US can I get the highest possible cap rates for single family homes (preferably 3/2/2) without having to buy in bad neighborhoods that would have a lot of evictions/vacancies and other headaches? CBS is a must-have (no wood frames). Also, I would rather have a high cap rate than high appreciation on the properties. To me, appreciation is too speculative to give up cap rate for. I am willing to buy single family homes pretty much anywhere in the US as long as the cap rates are high, the construction is CBS, the neighborhood is decent (low crime/safe) with reliable tenants willing to live there, and the properties can be managed by a good, local property manager. Any suggestions as to which cities/zip codes can give me all this with the highest possible cap rates? 

Thanks! 

Dan

Post: Buying residential rental properties in South Florida

Dan G.Posted
  • Fort Lauderdale, FL
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Wayne Brooks:

You're simply not going to find 15% cap rates in any kind of decent neighborhood, and the 15% caps in the rougher neighborhoods are a delusion after you deal with higher turnover vacancies, expenses and vandalism. I've found no wholesalers here with any great, or even good, deals. More than half are peddling MLS properties and auction site resales. This is not like out in the Midwest markets where you're buying $50k houses that may, or may not, have that kind of cash flow, but have have absolutely no appreciation benefits.

If a 15% cap rate is not realistic in South Florida, what is realistic?  

Does it make sense for me to invest in properties in the Midwest and use a property manager to manage them (since I don't live there)?  Personally, I would rather have the much higher cash flow and little or no appreciation.  I'll take a bird in the hand any day.  Appreciation is speculative, kind of like the stock market.  Over time, you get good returns, but there can be big dips that can extend for years.

Thanks!

Dan

Post: Buying residential rental properties in South Florida

Dan G.Posted
  • Fort Lauderdale, FL
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Sterling White:
Originally posted by @Dan G.:

Hello,

I live in South Florida and I am looking to buy a large number of properties (mostly single family homes, possibly some multi-family) that I can buy with cash and rent out to make good cash flow. I'm really not sure where to start. In looking at MLS listings, the yields/cap rates are not that strong unless you are lucky enough to stumble upon an amazing deal or look in bad neighborhoods. Are there agents out there that specialize in finding the "great deals" that will generate high yields? I want to avoid "bad" neighborhoods that will make it hard to get quality tenants. I'm hoping to find properties where I can get 15% net returns (cap rate), after expenses. For properties on the MLS, the net returns are generally 10% or less. I am not looking for major fixer uppers. I'm fine with basics like carpet and paint, and maybe patching a few holes, but not big rehab projects. I definitely don't want to take the risk of buying properties without an inspection, such as at auction. Since I will be paying all cash, hopefully that will enable me to get some great deals. But I really don't know where to start.

Thanks!

Dan

 You may want to try and do your own marketing to acquire off market deals. Considering you are able to close with cash this will be very enticing for motivated sellers. Or work with a local wholesaler in your market to acquire deals 

Thanks Sterling,

I don't have a ton of time to do marketing to acquire off market deals, but I could work with a wholesaler, or with a local real estate agent who works with multiple wholesalers.   Will I be able to get the homes inspected before buying so I don't have a lot of risk of buying a lemon?  How much of a discount will a wholesaler give me below market price?  Is the discount huge, or it the discount fairly small?  What's the best way for me to locate a real estate agent that works with wholesalers?

Thanks!

Dan

Post: Buying residential rental properties in South Florida

Dan G.Posted
  • Fort Lauderdale, FL
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Jamal White:

have you thought of finding properties though a property manager? They usually find deals before they hit the MLS? You might also want to find an agent that has access to off market deals.

Hi Jamal,

How would I find an agent who has access to off market deals?

Thanks!

Dan