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All Forum Posts by: Dan Frehmeyer

Dan Frehmeyer has started 3 posts and replied 12 times.

Post: Replace roof and HVAC?

Dan FrehmeyerPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Dan Frehmeyer:

I am currently rehabbing my primary at the moment with plans to rent out this fall. I am doing mostly cosmetic fixes to a SFH currently.

I am looking for thoughts on whether I should be proactive with replacing a 20yr+ old roof (missing shingles, multiple layers, looks terrible) and a 25yr+ old hvac. The water heater was replaced a few months ago.

I have access to very cheap money so my thought is to be proactive with those major expenses before I turn it into a rental. The property will still cash flow with the extra cost of these expenses. Additionally, the house will likely appraise very favorably after as well with a cash out refi a big possibility

Thoughts?


 YES replace the roof, about 250- 275  a sq depending on pitch. YES replace the furnace, 1800ish, ASSUMING is about 1k- 1500 sq ft house


 How does one buy a furnace for 1800? Im new so I am asking out of curiosity 

Post: Replace roof and HVAC?

Dan FrehmeyerPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Pat Mulligan:

Absolutely- and it sounds like you've answered your own question. Even without the cheap money and the cash flow, I always make the rental as sound and maintenance-free as possible before occupancy. You know you are going to have to fix/ repair soon anyway. Once a tenant is in, those repairs take longer and cost you more money in stress and collateral damage. Suppose, for example, the tenant delays in reporting the leaking roof - then you've got mold, damaged ceilings, etc.  

There are other reasons to take care of things upfront. If stuff breaks, even if you can fix it quickly, you still have an irritated tenant. A well- maintained home will likely cause the tenant to view it positively which will cause them to take better care of it and stay longer. You will also rent it faster and probably at a higher rent. 

Making your rental as sound as you can before listing it is a win-win for everyone, especially you. Good luck.


 Thank you for the reply! This is my exact thought process. It does feel like its worth it to check these items off the list now and not have them as line items to save for replacement costs. The house will cash flow just fine even with these added costs

Post: Replace roof and HVAC?

Dan FrehmeyerPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Theresa Harris:

Definitely do the roof. I know when I did mine, my insurance went down.  For the HVAC, has it been giving you problems?


 Appreciate the input. The HVAC is functioning fine at the moment. Ive owned the property since October and havent run the AC yet but it was working at the time of purchase.

Post: Roofing Contractors and Insurance

Dan FrehmeyerPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Owen Rosen:
Quote from @Dan Frehmeyer:

Just to bump this. Does anyone think that by going the route of using insurance for the new roof will cause a long term scaling issue?


 I replied in the other thread as well but you need to check what type of provisions you have on your policy to make sure you have the coverage you think you have.

Was there any discussion of the condition of the roof when you purchased the home/insurance in October?

The insurance company inquired about the age of the roof prior to finalizing coverage. I told them I did not know the age. They visited the house as part of their due diligence but I never heard anything further from them regarding any concerns they might have. 

Post: Replace roof and HVAC?

Dan FrehmeyerPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Matthew Paul:
Quote from @Dan Frehmeyer:
Quote from @Matthew Paul:

If you have shingles missing , thats probably from wind or storm damage . Have a roofer give you their opinion , and make a claim on insurance . 

I have had multiple roofers say that insurance will replace the whole roof due to that damage. My concern is that I am putting myself in danger of being uninsurable moving forward if I go that route. Am I being unreasonably cautious?

 Thats what insurance is for .  i have 2 properties that had wind damage , Both were covered , both same insurance company and this was 4 years ago and rates didnt go up much at all .  If you are not making claims all the time , you are fine .

DO NOT sign a contract with the roofer until it’s approved . 

Awesome great datapoint. I’ve only owned the house since October leading to my concern at all. 

Post: Replace roof and HVAC?

Dan FrehmeyerPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Matthew Paul:

If you have shingles missing , thats probably from wind or storm damage . Have a roofer give you their opinion , and make a claim on insurance . 

I have had multiple roofers say that insurance will replace the whole roof due to that damage. My concern is that I am putting myself in danger of being uninsurable moving forward if I go that route. Am I being unreasonably cautious?

Post: Replace roof and HVAC?

Dan FrehmeyerPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Scott Mac:

If it were mine I would replace the roof, including any roof decking underneath the shingles that need to be replaced, and look into the cost of doing a ridge vent at the top.

As far as the air conditioning system , you might be replacing a well built heavy duty unit with something that has a much shorter service life and instead of using freon it uses some incredibly expensive chemical . 

The downside of not replacing it is air conditioning systems fail when it's hot out, when they are needed the most and when it's most unpleasant for the renter to go without air conditioning. 

If you install a new one now it will give you some time to get any problems out of the installation.

Sometimes new installs have problems cooling the house correctly or just other problems- so doing it without tenants gives you some time to address any of these issues. 


 I really appreciate the reply. 

Yeah my thoughts are that why not take care of these potential problems before a tenant is in there. Hopefully I can get in front of these particular issues and have a lot less to worry about for many years. 

Post: Replace roof and HVAC?

Dan FrehmeyerPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 4

I am currently rehabbing my primary at the moment with plans to rent out this fall. I am doing mostly cosmetic fixes to a SFH currently.

I am looking for thoughts on whether I should be proactive with replacing a 20yr+ old roof (missing shingles, multiple layers, looks terrible) and a 25yr+ old hvac. The water heater was replaced a few months ago.

I have access to very cheap money so my thought is to be proactive with those major expenses before I turn it into a rental. The property will still cash flow with the extra cost of these expenses. Additionally, the house will likely appraise very favorably after as well with a cash out refi a big possibility

Thoughts?

Post: Roofing Contractors and Insurance

Dan FrehmeyerPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 4

Just to bump this. Does anyone think that by going the route of using insurance for the new roof will cause a long term scaling issue?

Post: Roofing Contractors and Insurance

Dan FrehmeyerPosted
  • Investor
  • Cleveland
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 4

It’s through a community program focused on improving properties. It’s a reputable program backed by a reputable bank