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All Forum Posts by: Damon Aniton

Damon Aniton has started 18 posts and replied 72 times.

Post: Horror Stories with Rental Arbitrage

Damon AnitonPosted
  • New Orleans, LA
  • Posts 76
  • Votes 34
Quote from @Michael Baum:

So my stories are all anecdotal. I do not do arbitrage nor allow it at our place.

I know of 3 people who started out doing arbitrage in 2020. They were all in the same boat with little cash available. All of them also watched various videos on how it was awesome and you could make a ton of dough etc etc.

All three lost everything. One is being sued. 2 were forced to declare bankruptcy and the one being sued is going to have to most likely.

They all got over leveraged, didn't have enough cash to make the places nice, no real reserves and then the pandemic came along with the various municipalities restricting visitors etc. Pretty much killed their business.

I have posted a ton on arbitrage and why it can be dangerous so I won't rehash all that.

I will say that if you are young with little dough to blow, you would be much better off using the FHA loan program and buying a small multi family. Live in one and rent the rest. Live for free, make a little cashola, refi after a year or so, rehab your old unit, rent it and buy another one with the same FHA program and do it again.

After 2 or 3 years you will have a few performing LTR multi family properties, hopefully some cash in the bank then you can start to branch out to other asset classes.


 At this point I am honestly convinced that arbitrage is the death nail to AirBnB in most cities.

Post: Horror Stories with Rental Arbitrage

Damon AnitonPosted
  • New Orleans, LA
  • Posts 76
  • Votes 34

The real stories right now are New York, Dallas, Austin and New Orleans.  With cities like Atlanta and many others soon to follow.

Arbitrage I think is the biggest factor in many cities forcing STR out. Operators coming in and renting out entire buildings, yes entire buildings, to arbitrage as an STR.

My guess over the next few years is being stuck with a rental unit you have to pay for out of pocket for the better part of a year as a worse case scenario.

I purchased a duplex in January with the thought of renting 1 unit as an LTR and making the 2nd unit as an STR to cover the difference but still be able to stay in the property when I come in town. Thinking/expecting that by March they would start issuing permits again.

I kept the unit for fun and going back and forth through about June. It became evident then the city was going to ******** their way through this process for an unknown amount of time. At that point I made a pivot. Even as a regular rental I would make a good amount of money over my PITI so I said screw it.

What ended up happening was I got it rented as partially furnished with utilities for $2800.  Fast forward that seems to be what more and more STR hosts are doing.  Not sure if they are renting but I see more and more furnished rentals pop up for that $2800 mark.  I think this will work out for a small number of owners but fizzle out fast.

The rest will be left holding the bag.  They will either sell or convert to regular rentals for much less monthly profit.

Post: Build to Rent Multi-family

Damon AnitonPosted
  • New Orleans, LA
  • Posts 76
  • Votes 34

Anyone building their own new construction as opposed to buying existing properties?  I am leaning this route for my next property.

Post: Thoughts on Investing Out of State?

Damon AnitonPosted
  • New Orleans, LA
  • Posts 76
  • Votes 34

If your local market does not fit your needs than absolutely.  That is what I did with my first property earlier this year.

Post: VA Loan Refinancing

Damon AnitonPosted
  • New Orleans, LA
  • Posts 76
  • Votes 34
Quote from @Caroline Gerardo:

Closed VA loan June your rate my guess was 6.5-6.75 as opposed to refinancing conventional today 7.5 plus mortgage insurance payment. Your payment will increase monthly. If you give me more details I can tell you how much higher. Refinancing to conventional to free up 100% VA eligibility might not be the best plan. Perhaps buying with a 95% conventional loan the next property is more economical.

479k @6.188% so right now total PITI is $3773

So give or take which loan I refinance to I am looking at 15-23k to get the LTV to a ratio that works for refinancing. This number can either be considerably less than 20% down on a 2nd loan or it might actually be worth the hassle.

This is also several months down the line, aka end of the year.  So the rates at that time will be a complete mystery.

Post: VA Loan Refinancing

Damon AnitonPosted
  • New Orleans, LA
  • Posts 76
  • Votes 34

What loan limit is it time to consider refinancing out of a VA loan?

By the end of the year I would be at the 1 year mark on my first multifamily purchase and am in the planning process for my next purchase.  I do know that I have some eligibility left for another primary home purchase and that if I go over that I would have a down payment of anything over that number.  If my calculations are correct I believe it is right at $247k.  Which is fine.

What I am wondering is if it makes more sense to make extra principle payments to drive my loan balance down to X% and refinance out and then just have a fully restored VA loan eligibility.

Post: Where you can still find deals -- House Hacks

Damon AnitonPosted
  • New Orleans, LA
  • Posts 76
  • Votes 34

Residential multifamily is simply not a thing for the Atlanta metro area.  I went outside to New Orleans to get what I wanted.

I picked up a new construction 6 bed 6 bath duplex. 3 up and down and each bedroom has a bathroom. Purchased at 479k for 6.118%. PITI is $3779. 1 unit rented to section 8 for $2250 and the 2nd unit rented to grad students for $2800.

I will be looking to pick up property 2 at the end of the year.  Meanwhile I just rent in Atlanta.

Post: House Hack small Multi Family

Damon AnitonPosted
  • New Orleans, LA
  • Posts 76
  • Votes 34

The critical flaw in your plan is that they dont have many multifamily properties in the Atlanta metro area.  I purchased out of state for this exact reason.

Post: First Rental Property

Damon AnitonPosted
  • New Orleans, LA
  • Posts 76
  • Votes 34

You did what most dont ever do.  You got 1.

Congrats