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All Forum Posts by: Dale K Poyser

Dale K Poyser has started 5 posts and replied 146 times.

Post: Best cities for RE Investing in Southern California

Dale K PoyserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 151
  • Votes 102
@jay orlauski that is very good advice, I have actually done some initial research into finding absentee owners and I 100% agree that offmarket will be the way to go to get  really good deal. It seems sites like Zillow and even the MLS will only help so much. Thanks!


Originally posted by @Jay Orlauski:

Hi Dale - one other thing to consider is that you mentioned starting with a SFR before diving into multifamily but I can tell you from experience that if you can purchase a multifamily then that is a better option - the problem with SFR is that if your tenants stop paying the rent or are late then you are responsible for 100% of the payment - of course if you buy all cash then its a different story - also - you spread the expenses AND the risk over multiple units - insurance for a duplex is cheaper than insurance for two seperate homes .. etc. For beginning investors - I think multifamilies are a safer bet to start building your portfolio. When you find the right market to invest in - look towards a multifamily to generate cash flow - once you have enough income to cover a missed payment you can start looking into SFRs. ALso - looking on the open market in California is not likely to yield a high cash flowing property - you need to look off-market for situations like foreclosures, divorces, moving out of state , frustrated landlords, etc. Start sending out some letters / postcards and try to get something off market - check with you local wholesalers too - sometimes they have some good deals to and have done all the marketing already. Best of luck to you.

Post: Best cities for RE Investing in Southern California

Dale K PoyserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 151
  • Votes 102

@Ali Boone I've seen low to mid 200's for condos and houses and even lower for mobile homes and manufactured homes.

Post: Best cities for RE Investing in Southern California

Dale K PoyserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 151
  • Votes 102

All, thank you so much for all your responses and feedback, I can't tell you enough how much I appreciate it. I'm adding the following cities to my watch list and will be doing some research in this areas. Thanks again for all the pointers!

Bakersfield, CA
Fresno, CA
Sacramento, CA
Santa Ana, CA

Dale

Post: Best cities for RE Investing in Southern California

Dale K PoyserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 151
  • Votes 102

@Justin R. I'll take a look at Bakersfield, thanks!

@Jo-Ann Lapin Thanks, will do!

Post: Best cities for RE Investing in Southern California

Dale K PoyserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 151
  • Votes 102
Thanks @Ali Boone I have noticed the numbers won't work in Orange county at current prices, unless you put  a large down payment down. But I am really liking some of the prices I'm seeing in certain areas like Santa Ana, and Anaheim. I was trying to see if there were even better areas that I could look at in the area. I only know about Riverside, and Santa Ana because I work in those areas and see all the construction going on.

Thanks a lot for the reply!


Originally posted by @Ali Boone

Post: Best cities for RE Investing in Southern California

Dale K PoyserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 151
  • Votes 102
Hey @Greg H.

My first goal would be cashflow and the second goal would be appreciation. I'm located in Orange County, which I did not mention because I don't need to be too close to home, especially with current prices.

I have been giving condos some thought because I feel I may have less (only the inside of the walls) to worry about but I know condos come with their own set of problems like HOA costs and politics, etc. 

I've seen the crazy appreciation in prices since 2008/2009 but I think that was largely due to how things were over leveraged and I agree with you things won't appreciate that much. I do see ALOT of construction going on in certain areas around SoCal and there is only so much land to go around. Places like Irvine, Huntington Beach, Laguna are really being built up.

I'll take a look at South Central LA, thanks a lot for taking the time to reply. 

Originally posted by @Greg M.

Post: Best cities for RE Investing in Southern California

Dale K PoyserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 151
  • Votes 102
So the tax rates are not that bad after all?

Originally posted by @Aaron K.:

@Dale K Poyser Moreno Valley tax rate is usually 1.25% unless you hit the special assessment areas Riverside 1.10% usually not too bad all things considered.  If you were to look out of state to say Texas the property taxes can be more like 2.75% and they don't have prop 13.

Post: Best cities for RE Investing in Southern California

Dale K PoyserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 151
  • Votes 102
Haha, very true! I am looking into the approach of finding absentee owners or more motivated sellers.

Originally posted by @Curtis Chen:

I'm currently not looking for rentals out of state so couldn't help you there, if you read about a great area somewhere it's probably already too late haha, going to be focusing on chasing down off market deals around Scal. 

Post: Best cities for RE Investing in Southern California

Dale K PoyserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 151
  • Votes 102

Thanks Curtis, I have been checking prices almost daily and I found a couple cheaper properties in Santa Ana and in Moreno Valley. I found a condo for 138k and I've seen 3/2 bath houses for mid 200's to 300's.

But I'll keep running the numbers and keep that in mind. What out of state cities would you recommend?

Post: Best cities for RE Investing in Southern California

Dale K PoyserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 151
  • Votes 102

Hi BiggerPockets Community - pretty new to the site and forums. I am not sure if this has been posted already, if it has then my apologies in advance and please point me to that thread.

I've been looking at different RE markets in Southern California, and so far Riverside and Moreno Valley seem like the cheapest options for investing in some rental properties. My real estate agent suggested that Riverside/Moreno might not be a good option because of high taxes, is there any truth to this?

Are there any cities in or close to Southern California that are good for the newbie investor just getting started in rental properties? I think ideally Single Family Residence is where I should want to go, before moving up to multiunit properties, but I'm new so I could be wrong in this approach. Would condos be a better option to avoid high ticket maintenance items like the roof and garages, landscaping etc?

Look forward to the replies.