@John O'Leary I kind of have the same issue, but it's a condo in the building where I currently live. Not on the market yet. Seller is anchoring at ~$25 K less than the GIS.
Zillow is showing $60k over seller's anchor price
Redfin is showing $120k over seller's anchor price (I know it wouldn't sell for that much)
Realtor.com is showing $80k over seller's anchor price
I think the bones are good, but it's stuck in the 70's - Seller is a chain smoker. It needs new floors, new carpet, new bathroom, new kitchen.
I want to start my anchor at 50k less than what hers is.
My issue is with financing. I can come up with 10k cash (willing to pull from my after-tax contributions to my Roth IRA) and I can take about another $50K from a backdoor IRA rollover from my prior employer's 401(k), but I'd rather not do that. In addition, I rehabbed my bathroom and kitchen myself in my primary condo. If I purchase the investment property in my retirement account, I can't do the work myself - I have to hire out and pay contractors through the retirement vehicle. Also, I won't profit right now from rental income - only my IRA will profit (yes I know it's me later in life), but I want more capital now so I can pay down my private student loan faster and repeat the process with other properties.
The place is 1 mile from the beach, 2 minutes to the bus stop, 1 mile to the train, and less than 1/2 mile to a new mixed use development that will open this spring (just the 1st phase) and it's a 20 - 30 yr mixed use project.
As far as renovations go, I think I could get decent rent right now w/o the reno, then in about 2 yrs when the mixed use development has grown, I'll rehab the place and raise the rent. Not sure if I can refi OUT of my retirement vehicle, but if I can, that would definitely be an option.
I want to buy and hold for rental income. Probably exit in 10 - 20 yrs.
I've thought about seller financing, but I'm not sure the seller will understand that and I don't want to scare them (I'm sure I can explain it without using the words "seller finance"). However, I'm not sure the seller will be able to do that as they are going into either a nursing or assisted living (I'm not exactly sure) and those places may say they can't have any assets - so seller financing may be out of the question.
Any other creative financing ideas? Above you mentioned Sub 2, but subject to what??????
I thank you and anyone else in advance for your ideas - help me get some creative juices flowing, PLEAZE..................