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All Forum Posts by: Tim Carlson

Tim Carlson has started 2 posts and replied 3 times.

Post: Financial Education for Kids

Tim CarlsonPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 3
  • Votes 0

Love to hear some innovative ideas for teaching our kids how it all works.

My main two ideas so far are:

1. when they want a decent-sized purchase (say $100ish) outside of bday/xmas, have them read a book along the lines of Millioniare Next Door/RichDadPoorDad and write me a book report

2. gradually pay them to manage my local properties.  Prob start with an hourly rate for doing bookkeeping, gradually work into the physical aspects of mgmt (painting, running an open house, etc)

I'm sure there are all kinds of things I haven't thought of, what are y'all doing? :)

@Vince Mayer
I probably should have quoted that sentence (as you did), because that's what I was told by a long-term St Louis resident.  I quit watching TV news decades ago. :)

Regards,

Tim

I'm looking at a package of a dozen or so homes in NW St. Louis county.  They are all in County, NOT City limits.

Several of them center around Jennings, which doesn't look too bad at Sperling's Best Places

One of them *is* in Ferguson however, and we all know that history.

Avg house price around 40K, avg monthly rent around $750.

All look in decent shape on Google street view.  Yards are all mowed, no trash, etc. 

Cap rates are advertised 12-13, let's say reality is 9-11, cause sellers usually present blue skies cases.  ($750 x 12 = $9000, assume a bad 60% overhead/vacancy, we've got $3600/40K or a 9 cap.)

All but one current tenant are section 8.  I would keep prop mgmt in place.

I've been told that the Section 8 gov't agents visit the props periodically, and the tenant can lose their Section 8 if they don't care of the prop, so in theory at least, the tenants have some skin in the game.

On the surface, I've been told by one St. Louis resident to run for the hills and don't look back, don't even consider this deal.   It's a very low income/high crime area, St. Louis has perhaps the worst race relations in the country, the Ferguson riots were not that long ago.

On the other hand, the homes do all look good on street view, and I know there are investors out there who have learned to successfully play the Section 8 game and get better returns than buying higher grade properties at the low cap rates available these days.

What is your specific and general advice to do my DD on this, especially if you know the area?

Anyone out there specialize in Section 8?
What steps would you take?