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All Forum Posts by: K W

K W has started 11 posts and replied 33 times.

Post: Which 4plex, or neither? Help please

K WPosted
  • Southern California, CA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 7

Well heck! Hmmm, does that cash flow number you give factor in my depreciation deduction for taxes, as well as my interest deduction on the mortgage?

I've read a little on these forums about the 50% rule, but it seems hard to believe that you'd spend $1750 per month on expenses. Am I just being naive, or what exactly is it spent on?

Most of the properties we've reviewed list operating expenses at closer to $1,000 per month. Are they fudging their numbers, or maybe not including everything we should be aware of?

Now that I read your numbers again, I see that you are factoring this at the full asking price, and are including my down payment in the monthly debt figure. I wasn't factoring the down payment into my calculations because I plan to hold the property for quite awhile. Am I way off base here?

IF, and I know you think they are terrible, but IF I chose to offer on them and knowing that one is a short sale and one is bank owned - - what would be a low-ball offer that has a chance of being accepted? 70% of asking?

Thanks

Post: Do I need a DBA or LLC?

K WPosted
  • Southern California, CA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 7

Looking to buy my first 4-plex. Do I really need a DBA, or since it's residential property can I just keep good records and have everything in my own name?

What if I buy the property in my name, and then get a DBA to run the property money through, is that okay since the property would be held in my name instead of the DBA?

thanks in advance

Post: Which 4plex, or neither? Help please

K WPosted
  • Southern California, CA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 7

Hey there, thanks in advance for your help. We want to buy a four plex property and have two in mind. I'll give you the stats for each below. We want to hold the properties for at least 5-10 years. Hoping you can tell me if these are workable deals and which one might be better, and also what type of offers might be reasonable. Not very many sales of similar properties recently to compare with, but in the range of 275,000 to 350,000 depending on age, condition, etc.

I have 25% cash down and extra cash on hand for needed repairs or vacancy issues. I can get a 30yr fixed for about 6%, and will pay water/trash/sewer ($300 mo?), property taxes about $3500 yr, and insurance about $1500 yr. Vacancy rate is at 5% in the area, however I want to be generous with my figures so will assume 10% to be safe.

Property A:
Short sale, listed for $315,000, on market 101 days, 4plex currently rented with monthly rent of about $3,500. Neighborhood is okay, with a few 4-plex properties and other single family older homes - kind of a mixed lot here. Exterior looks good, good curb appeal, have not seen inside yet because it's rented. Assuming it's in livable condition (since it's full) but will need cosmetic or minor repairs as tenants move in/out. This house sold for $650,000 at the peak of the market in early 2006.

Property B:
Bank owned, listed at $349,000. Very similar in style and curb appeal to property A, although this one has a better neighborhood - even though it's only a few blocks away. This one is in an area of well-kept 4-plex properties. Rents would be similar to property A, however it is currently vacant so I would need to allow $$ and time to fill it. The interior, however, is listed as "rent ready" and has fresh paint and some new carpet. Again, haven't been able to go inside to actually see it. This house sold for $700,000 at the peak of the market in early 2006.

Soooooo..... which one is better? I'm leaning toward the more expensive one just because of the neighborhood, but the other one is fully rented - - but who/what might I be inheriting?? Both properties are in southern California near a state University. And the big question - - how much should I offer?

Thanks!!