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All Forum Posts by: Craig Anderson

Craig Anderson has started 23 posts and replied 189 times.

Post: Don't fall for the "Guru" gimmicks

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So, I just went to an Investment Club meeting, and thought about joining. However, the costs were too much for me, but I was thinking of ways that I could still do this.  However, after I let things settle in my mind, I realized that they are not teaching anything that I haven't learned through BP or other resources, so why would I give them my money in order for the to "help me."  

It's all about mindset, believing in myself, and knowing that I will be successful by sticking to my business plan for investing.  I believe that the capital will come when I find the right deal.  And, on the way home, I was thinking of reaching out to lenders now and getting to know them and letting them get to know me, so I can build a rapport.  

And, as I was doing some research on this club when I got home, I came across Brandon Turner's blog post about how to avoid being scammed by "guru" clubs and investors.  He gave the advice that I've already been thinking about and realizing on the way home. Yet, it was great to hear to remind myself that I'm making the right choice by investing in myself rather than giving away my money.

Thanks BP community for being there as I'm learning and getting ready to invest.

Take a look at his advice, it's simple and direct.

Post: Send me your financing questions

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I'm a new investor in SoCal, and I'm saving what I can to invest. However, can I get a 100% loan for an investment if I have a steady W2 job and good credit? Also, is there a cap on that type of loan? I would like to get a home below market value, and refi after a year with an increase in ARV. Would this be something that I talk to a smaller local bank rather than big corps?

Post: Mentor program Joel Snagerman

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Well, my advice is that if you can't find information or reviews on a person, program or property, then it's probably not a good sign.

Post: Moving to Idaho in a year

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Originally posted by @Isaac Islas:

@Craig Anderson Thank you it’s Boise or Pocatello

Two good choices, those are the areas that we are looking into as well when we move.  Chubbuck, which is a suburb of Pocatello, is expanding with new builds and growth. Good Luck! 

Post: Moving to Idaho in a year

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Yes, you will need a source of income to get any loan unless you have a co-signer or if you are paying in all cash.  And, if you are moving, then you will need proof of income in the state that you are moving to even if it is a signed letter from a local company.

Where are you moving to in Idaho? We are moving there next summer.

Post: Down Payment Assistance

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This is a very good strategy when you have no or low money to get into a house. In addition, if you're house hacking, then you just account for this loan when you find tenants.

Post: The "Infinite Return" BRRRR is BS

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Originally posted by @Grayson Spittel:

@Brian Hood I think that new investors "value their time" too much! As the BRRRR strategy is so appealing to new investors without large amounts of capital, trying to get the snowball rolling down hill with some momentum, my time being factored in is pennies through those first few deals compared to what is being learnt and the concrete financial returns. I think that of course as you become more experienced, your time becomes more valuable - but for so many people, myself included at this time, even though I'm committing 50 hours (just a round #) to my BRRRR investments, I wouldn't ever factor that in to my calculations at this time. The experience of learning and growing might actually be a cost savings!!

Just my 2 cents.

- Grayson

Excellent reply! I'm a teacher and HS Basketball coach, and I get paid a stipend for my coaching. However, when I actually calculated the hours compared to what my stipend is, it is pennies on the dollar. Luckily, I love to coach and love my job as it's very rewarding on both ends, and I learn a ton every year. So, gaining experience in REI and learning on the job is very valuable. I do calculate in my analysis to make sure that I'm making X-amount from any refi after ALL expenses are paid including any private or hard money loans and closing costs.

Post: The "Infinite Return" BRRRR is BS

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Originally posted by @Erik W.:

@Brian Hood, hi and welcome to BP!

Before saying things like "Infinite Return is BS" and "Why isn't anyone counting their time?" first we should examine if those statements are true.  They are presented as factual truth claims, but are they accurate?  Let's examine them one at a time.

Infinite return. Theoretically, if you invest $0 of your own money AND you pay yourself a reasonable wage / salary / commission for the work it takes to do the BRRRR, or if you hire that task out to other people, and still make a profit after it's all said and done, then yes, you do have an infinite rate of return. The trick is, as you mentioned, that many people forget to include a reasonable compensation for their time and effort, which leads us to point # 2.

Counting time.  Bingo.  That's the ticket.  You have to pay yourself.  I do know a lot of investors who forget this part.  Basically, an investor is someone who tries to earn profit by deploying capital wisely.  So when you start slinging a paint brush and/or swinging a hammer, you are working for free unless you pay yourself an hourly or per-the-job wage at market rates.  A lot of folks forget to do this, so their investing actually involves a lot of sweat equity that isn't accounted for. Land lords are particularly bad about this, saying "I make $200 per door!" but forgetting they spend 10-15 hours per week working on their properties for $0 compensation other than that $200 per door, which is more properly categorized as a wage/earned income vs. a passive investment return.  Even activities like deal hunting should be compensated, just as if you were wholesale-sourcing your own deals.  If you typically pay a wholesaler $5,000 for a deal but you spend 20 hours sourcing that deal yourself (Bandit signs, driving for dollars, etc), be sure to subtract that much out of your investment profit

Here's how I do it.  I "pay" myself a GC rate wage ($150/hour) for any project management I do, including deal sourcing, inspections, negotiations, etc.  I hire out all my maintenance.  For my properties that I self-manage, I pay myself 10% of the monthly rent.  After all expenses including my paydays are taken out, then that's my profit.  And I'm proud to say I both 1) Achieve and infinite rate of return and 2) Properly count and compensate all my hours.

Try it: you might be surprised at how it changes your philosophy of investing!  I hope this is helpful to see how some folks handle this.

Those are great things to think about. As I've been analyzing, I figure in the costs of how much it would cost to pay back the hard money lender with interest as well as money coming back to me after ALL expenses are paid. Then, I figure out what I would need in ARV to make sure the lender is paid and I am paid after everything is completed.

Post: The "Infinite Return" BRRRR is BS

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Originally posted by @Colin Reid:

I haven't completed a BRRRR yet, but for my buy-and-hold business in general, or any business, you need time, skill, and money. You can do it with little money if you have time and skill, no skill if you have time and money. With enough money you can buy time, but you need at least the skill to "manage your manager," or check on the person you trusted with your money.

For me, I have some money, some skill, and an abundance of time. So I'll spend what I have plenty of to try and save my more scarce assets for when I really need them.

That is a great way of looking at things. I have the time now as well, but little money. So, I'm trying to connect with others that have money and more experience to let them know that I have time and skills at researching and analyzing.

Post: Which Calculator do I Use for my situation

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I would use the BRRRR calculator and use the "rehab" amount that you plan and calculate with those numbers.

However, I believe you could use the Rental calculator too, but you would use the numbers for the refi portion when calculating data for after the refi and rental. Or, you might be able to run the numbers 2x on the rental calculator by first putting in the numbers with a "cash" offer for the Hard money and put in the terms. Then, run the numbers with a new document for ARV and refi.

Sometimes you have to get creative, and the numbers seem to work when I've done it that way.