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All Forum Posts by: Gary B.

Gary B. has started 2 posts and replied 7 times.

Post: House too nice for rental?

Gary B.Posted
  • OKC, OK
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 2

Thanks for the heads up on the 1031 guys.

Post: House too nice for rental?

Gary B.Posted
  • OKC, OK
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by Jeff S.:
@Gary B. - If many of the homes are still owned by the same owners/landlords the neighborhood may be on the decline again in a matter of years. As far as emotional attachment, that shouldn't factor into your financial game plan. If you are trying to accumulate enough to retire let the numbers guide you. What is the highest and best use of your time and money? How long have you owned the house? What is the likely hood of another tornado coming through?

The rental houses next to me are for sale. Unfortunately, they are overpriced and will probably not sell resulting in the owners renting them again.

I have owned the house for 7 years.

It's hard to predict mother nature, but this area seems to get hit by a major tornado every 10-15 years.

Post: House too nice for rental?

Gary B.Posted
  • OKC, OK
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by Sharon Hiebing:
"PITI is $815/month. The houses next to me rent for $1,250 and $1,300."

Actually, I would have preferred just to see what your mortgage payment was, without the taxes and insurance included, so we could do a quick analysis w/ the 50% rule. It says:

Rent x 50% - mortgage payment = cash flow

Taking the low rent number of $1250, your P&I would need to be $625 or less for you to be cash flow even or positive. I think you're very close. Given the great shape of the house and the fact that you have equity and could walk away with a decent amount, sans cap gains, selling seems prudent to me.

As you said though, you're emotionally attached to this house, so what seems logical to us may not feel so to you. Good luck!

Principal and Interest is $570.

Cash flow: (1250 * .5) - 570 = $55

I would hate to see this house destroyed by a tenant. I put a lot of sweat equity into it, but some times that's part of the game. At the end of the day, it's just sticks and bricks. I could always cover the hardwood with carpet if it got damaged.

Post: House too nice for rental?

Gary B.Posted
  • OKC, OK
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by Scott W.:
what your PITA is. How has your area appreciated? Do you think it will appreciate in the next 2 years (I do but then I think it's gonna come down).

PITI is $815/month. The houses next to me rent for $1,250 and $1,300.

The general area has appreciated. The neighborhood itself has probably appreciated at a slightly slower rate. I do believe it will appreate in the next 2 years with all the new construction.

Post: House too nice for rental?

Gary B.Posted
  • OKC, OK
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 2

That is an idea. I could do a 1031 exchange on a bigger house that needs updating. Live in it while I'm rehabbing and flip it.

Post: House too nice for rental?

Gary B.Posted
  • OKC, OK
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 2

My primary residence is a 3/2/2 that's 1300 SQFT built in 1996. It's located in a neighborhood in OKC that was hit hard by the May 20th tornado. The house 4 houses down was bulldozed. 90% of the houses in the 7 blocks south of me are gone.

The neighborhood has gone down hill the past 5+ years with a lot more rental properties and lack of pride of ownership. Maybe the new houses being rebuilt will help that, but now we'll have an "old" and "new" part of the neighborhood.

Over the past 2 years I've completely remodeled my house. It's got hardwood floors throughout, new doors, lighting, baseboards, updated kitchen, appliances, new garage door, etc... Based on the properties I've seen in the neighborhood, it's well above and beyond the norm. It's also my first home, so I have an emotional tie to it.

My question is, would it be a mistake to convert this house into a rental? I'm thinking the hardwood floors would be ruined in no time.

Would it be better to sell this house and buy two good rental properties. One I'd rent immediately and one I'd live in for a few years and then convert to a rental.

I have around $40K equity in the house with around $80K cash available.

If selling is the way to go, do I try to sell immediately or do I wait a year or so and get some of the newer houses rebuilt to bring up the sell price per square foot?

I'm curious what made you decide to get into REI. Was it your original dream career? Did you try other businesses before becoming an investor? Did you want something "passive" that would supplement your current 8-5 job?

I've always wanted to start my own business. I keep coming back to REI. There are many things I enjoy about RE. I love looking at it, talking about it, reading about it, etc..., but I still haven't committed to it 100%. I still wonder if this is the best way to focus my time and energy or could I be more successful in another "traditional" type of business.

When you think $100 - $300 a door a month, it doesn't sound like much money on one hand, but on the other hand you have a steady monthly cash flow, hopefully an appreciating asset, tax benefits, etc...

I guess my question is, for the people that fully committed themselves to investing in real estate, what made you choose this path over another?