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All Forum Posts by: Colton Duke

Colton Duke has started 1 posts and replied 7 times.

Post: Newbie looking for advice

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Quote from @Ethan Bruland:

I would not suggest taking on 8% debt to act as an emergency fund.  If I could go back to 28 and no kids, I'd be buying a new house every 2 years and renting each as you move on.  I love living in a small town, but it's one of the biggest downsides from a house hack standpoint.  Keep moving until you find your forever home.  Each house in between is a step towards financial freedom.  Good luck!

Future wife refuses to sell current home. Wants to hold on to it *forever*. 

Post: Newbie looking for advice

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Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Colton Duke

because it means you have to pay 100% of everything back.

i'll give you an example.  i'm going to oversimplify, but hopefully it will make sense.

you buy a house for 100K cash, you fix it up for 50K cash, and you hope to sell it for 200K, but you mess up and sell it for 150K.  you've got your cash back.  you wasted a ton of time and effort and made a 0% return.  not great but you didn't lose anyone else's money.

now flip to 100% leverage. you borrow 150K and sell for 150K.  you have to pay that 150K back - plus interest and points.  call it 5K points plus 9K interest.  you're at negative 14K.

make sense?  the more you borrow the higher the risk.


 It does, thank you. I've shifted my thinking. Currently working on securing a cash investor for home purchase and funding the rehab myself to have skin in the game. 

Post: Newbie looking for advice

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Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Colton Duke
"a flip using hard money and a private investor which i could find relatively easy"

whatever you do, flipping is tough right now and i would strongly recommend against borrowing 100% of the costs, which is what i think you're proposing here

good luck


 I say this completely understanding the fact that I am largely ignorant to the process, but a common theme I always hear is that if you can use other peoples money to make money, it is good. So, why is this such a bad strategy to utilize? I ask the question simply to gain understanding as to the why!

Post: Newbie looking for advice

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Quote from @Johann Villalvir:

If you choose to go the flipping route using opm, I would encourage you to pick a smaller/easier flip as even big flippers are having issues right now due to uncertainty of the future cost of labor + supplies.


 Thank you for the feedback. I've gotten similar advice from people in my network that are knowledgeable on the process. 

Post: Newbie looking for advice

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Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Colton Duke:

There are very few instances where I would recommend borrowing money just to borrow money (HELOC, hard money loan, etc.).

Invest from a strong financial foundation. Borrowing money that you then use to borrow money is a high-risk technique. When one domino falls, the entire thing comes crashing down. It's the kind of nonsense that made Dave Ramsey a multi-millionaire, and then bankrupted him. Learn from his mistake.


 Thank you for the feedback. What's your thought on the cash out refi as long as the cash flow is in the green or at least even if the primary residence were to be used as a rental, and the cash out used to purchase another property?

Post: Newbie looking for advice

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Quote from @Conner Olsen:
Quote from @Colton Duke:

Hello! Been listening to BP for awhile, and the gears are really turning at this point. 

Background: 28, engaged, $150kish in joint gross income, and bought a home 3 years ago utilizing Indiana's down payment assistance program. That lien falls off tomorrow. 

Owe roughly 188k on the house (3br, 2ba 1600 sq ft .86 acres brick ranch non hoa neighborhood 3.5% rate $1350 a month payment including mortgage, taxes, pmi, ins, etc.)

I really want to purchase our first investment property, but not sure what to do. I like the idea of a flip using hard money and a private investor which i could find relatively easy, or on the other side buying a single family property in the area and renting out the current home which i think could cash flow $600ish a month.

The issue is not knowing the best route to go to get the funding on the single family purchase. Cash out refi could give us $60kish i think for a down payment, but that would essentially make our cash flow on the current home go to zero, or possibly even the red. Is it a necessary evil to refi into a higher interest rate to get cash and be able to utilize an fha on a new property? 

Also, ALL liquid cash is tied into a wedding rn, so the refi could also give us a decent emergency fund regardless of the higher monthly payment, which would not be a big financial burden to us. 


All advice is much appreciated!


I heard David Greene say refinances at a higher rate are ok if you end up with more cash flow than you started. For example, You refinance your current home and pay more but your cash flow goes from $0 to $300/month. You want to make sure you're going forward, not backwards.


 Gotcha. So, bad idea unless there can be a positive cash flow. 

Post: Newbie looking for advice

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Hello! Been listening to BP for awhile, and the gears are really turning at this point. 

Background: 28, engaged, $150kish in joint gross income, and bought a home 3 years ago utilizing Indiana's down payment assistance program. That lien falls off tomorrow. 

Owe roughly 188k on the house (3br, 2ba 1600 sq ft .86 acres brick ranch non hoa neighborhood 3.5% rate $1350 a month payment including mortgage, taxes, pmi, ins, etc.)

I really want to purchase our first investment property, but not sure what to do. I like the idea of a flip using hard money and a private investor which i could find relatively easy, or on the other side buying a single family property in the area and renting out the current home which i think could cash flow $600ish a month.

The issue is not knowing the best route to go to get the funding on the single family purchase. Cash out refi could give us $60kish i think for a down payment, but that would essentially make our cash flow on the current home go to zero, or possibly even the red. Is it a necessary evil to refi into a higher interest rate to get cash and be able to utilize an fha on a new property? 

Also, ALL liquid cash is tied into a wedding rn, so the refi could also give us a decent emergency fund regardless of the higher monthly payment, which would not be a big financial burden to us. 


All advice is much appreciated!