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All Forum Posts by: Reginald Collier

Reginald Collier has started 3 posts and replied 15 times.

Post: Multiple applications at the same bank?

Reginald CollierPosted
  • New Jersey(near Philly)
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 4

So I just opened 2 brand new separate LLC's recently.

Company A, and Company B

I applied at WF for a business line of credit for Company A, and was approved for $25K(based on personal credit score/income)

I went to a different bank(AFCU) for Company B(credit union) and they said that the most I could get for a new business in $10K(their policy on new businesses...I didn't apply yet)

The question is......Can/Should I go back to WF and apply for a different line for Company B and potentially get $25K for Company B as well?

They will both be a hard inquiry on my Personal account..........but will they say something like....."We seen that you just applied for a line for Company A, so we can't give you as much now"..............Or will they both be based on their own merits. help.

thx

Post: Multiple Lines of Credit, at same bank? 2 separate llc's

Reginald CollierPosted
  • New Jersey(near Philly)
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 4

So I just opened 2 brand new separate LLC's recently.

Company A, and Company B

I applied at WF for a business line of credit for Company A, and was approved for $25K(based on personal credit score/income)

I went to a different bank for Company B(credit union) and they said that the most I could get for a new business in $10K(their policy on new businesses...I didn't apply yet)

The question is......Can/Should I go back to WF and apply for a different line for Company B and potentially get $25K for Company B as well?

They will both be a hard inquiry on my Personal account..........but will they say something like....."We seen that you just applied for a line for Company A, so we can't give you as much now"..............Or will they both be based on their own merits.  help.

thx

Post: So what's holding you back?

Reginald CollierPosted
  • New Jersey(near Philly)
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Frank Patalano:
Originally posted by @Reginald Collier:
Originally posted by @Frank Patalano:
Originally posted by @Reginald Collier:

@Frank Patalano I appreciate the reply.   Thanks for answering the specific questions.

My main focus is to attain the cash flow to retire early.   Who better to ask than the cash flow king.

I currently have about 10K in credit card debt i'm trying to clear.  I also have a personal line of credit of $15K avail(5K balance) that I have been using to accelerate my debt elimination.(eliminated almost $20K in debt since March)

So i don't won't have the 25% down payment anytime soon unless I do rental properties in the $40-$70K range.

My additional questions to you is, how much Cash Flow can I typically expect from a turnkey vs doing it on my own?  I understand that every deal is different.....I'm just looking for typical ballpark numbers.   are we talking $100-$400(max monthly turnkey)  and maybe an additional $100-$200/month by doing it on my own?

I constantly get bombarded with mail offering $30-$50K personal loan options. Could/Should I use this for down payments? And would the bank use this against my DTI, even though the money is sitting in the bank? I would Pay the loan off right away if the Rental Property lets me pull all/most of the equity back out.(after the down payment) to pay off the loan.

Can you even pull money out of a turnkey property?( I hear they take a portion of the equity sometimes?)

Thx again.




So here is an example. 

I Pulled up a turnkey single family in IN. 3 bed 1 bath. $75,000. Monthly rent $800. 

$21K down. Expected return $100/month after every thing. Not counting maintaining the LLC. Eww.

Here is another Turnkey.

Single Family in IL. 2/1.5 $105K. 25% down. Expected return $4K per year. Better.

Here is an example of buying from a non-turnkey website. 3F in RI. 2 beds each. Rents $2700 monthly (Currently a little under market). 25% down. Mortgage $1150 per month. Expenses $750/month. Expected return. $600/month. (Figured $100/month vacancy and $100/month for repairs. But No property management.) 

Multis are a little different from single family rentals but its the same idea.

Sounds like turnkeys aren't too bad. At the same point numbers can be played with. Plus a single family vacancy can kill ya.

Any loans would count against your DTI.

Perhaps you could wholesale a property or two to get you started.

Or find a partner and share the risk/reward.



@Frank Patalano

Thanks again.   What website is the RI property on(non-turnkey).   I think the main reason i'm focusing on turnkey, is because of the services they provide while I work my FT job.   The research, vetting tenants, property management, repairs already done, etc. is attractive to a 1st time Rental investor.  Sounds like it might be worth the extra $100/month or so.  Sounds like a "quicker" process too.    But that may all pivot on whether I could eventually Refinance and pull the money back out to do it again.   The whole turnkey thought is just revealing my fear's of doing it alone.  Climbing out of poverty to get to this point, makes me want to tip toe into this without a disaster sending me back to square one.   So turnkeys seem to add a little more security and peace of mind, knowing  that people that know better than me, did all the hard work for me.

And what did you mean by "maintaining the LLC"? What costs are involved with that outside of initially setting it up, and tax time issues?

side note:  If i pay my debt down, I may be able to qualify for a $30K+ Line of credit from my bank which could be used for down payments until they the holding time is satisfied.   

(you are the man for answering everyone's questions like this, btw)  It is helping me mentally move forward a lot!

 I was giving an example of one of my properties if I bought it now slightly below market.

Maintaining the LLC. There are small costs every year to have an LLC. Annual fee from the state. Separate tax return if it is a partnership.

I worked a full time and part time job for years and managed 10-12 units myself for a while. I had a handyman/contractor who did most of the work.If they couldn't contact me the tenants would call them.

At the beginning of the year I switched to full time property management on every to allow me to look at more opportunities.

Turnkey is an okay way to start. Contact them it is free to look and ask questions. 

 I will talk with them and seek out a CPA as well.   U da man!

Post: So what's holding you back?

Reginald CollierPosted
  • New Jersey(near Philly)
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Tyler Gibson:

@Reginald Collier I suggest talking to a mortgage officer for more specifics but I think it is 6 months to a year. Also, I think the line of credit would impact your DTI but I don't underwrite loans so I am by no means an expert.

Duly noted.  Thank you sir Tyler the Creator. lol

Post: So what's holding you back?

Reginald CollierPosted
  • New Jersey(near Philly)
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Tyler Gibson:

@Reginald Collier I can't answer about the numbers on turnkey vs. doing it yourself but as to the DTI question yes a personal loan would count against your DTI even if it is in the bank because it is still a loan and you would still have a payment. Also, it would be hard to immediately pull the downpayment back out of the property after purchase unless you were somehow able to force appreciation and even then typically loans require seasoning.

@Tyler Gibson I may have an option for a Line of Credit of $30K plus eventually. So using that wouldn't be a loan and effect the DTI until after the fact. So how long is it typically for "seasoning" before I can pull it out again?

Post: So what's holding you back?

Reginald CollierPosted
  • New Jersey(near Philly)
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Frank Patalano:
Originally posted by @Reginald Collier:

@Frank Patalano I appreciate the reply.   Thanks for answering the specific questions.

My main focus is to attain the cash flow to retire early.   Who better to ask than the cash flow king.

I currently have about 10K in credit card debt i'm trying to clear.  I also have a personal line of credit of $15K avail(5K balance) that I have been using to accelerate my debt elimination.(eliminated almost $20K in debt since March)

So i don't won't have the 25% down payment anytime soon unless I do rental properties in the $40-$70K range.

My additional questions to you is, how much Cash Flow can I typically expect from a turnkey vs doing it on my own?  I understand that every deal is different.....I'm just looking for typical ballpark numbers.   are we talking $100-$400(max monthly turnkey)  and maybe an additional $100-$200/month by doing it on my own?

I constantly get bombarded with mail offering $30-$50K personal loan options. Could/Should I use this for down payments? And would the bank use this against my DTI, even though the money is sitting in the bank? I would Pay the loan off right away if the Rental Property lets me pull all/most of the equity back out.(after the down payment) to pay off the loan.

Can you even pull money out of a turnkey property?( I hear they take a portion of the equity sometimes?)

Thx again.




So here is an example. 

I Pulled up a turnkey single family in IN. 3 bed 1 bath. $75,000. Monthly rent $800. 

$21K down. Expected return $100/month after every thing. Not counting maintaining the LLC. Eww.

Here is another Turnkey.

Single Family in IL. 2/1.5 $105K. 25% down. Expected return $4K per year. Better.

Here is an example of buying from a non-turnkey website. 3F in RI. 2 beds each. Rents $2700 monthly (Currently a little under market). 25% down. Mortgage $1150 per month. Expenses $750/month. Expected return. $600/month. (Figured $100/month vacancy and $100/month for repairs. But No property management.) 

Multis are a little different from single family rentals but its the same idea.

Sounds like turnkeys aren't too bad. At the same point numbers can be played with. Plus a single family vacancy can kill ya.

Any loans would count against your DTI.

Perhaps you could wholesale a property or two to get you started.

Or find a partner and share the risk/reward.



@Frank Patalano

Thanks again.   What website is the RI property on(non-turnkey).   I think the main reason i'm focusing on turnkey, is because of the services they provide while I work my FT job.   The research, vetting tenants, property management, repairs already done, etc. is attractive to a 1st time Rental investor.  Sounds like it might be worth the extra $100/month or so.  Sounds like a "quicker" process too.    But that may all pivot on whether I could eventually Refinance and pull the money back out to do it again.   The whole turnkey thought is just revealing my fear's of doing it alone.  Climbing out of poverty to get to this point, makes me want to tip toe into this without a disaster sending me back to square one.   So turnkeys seem to add a little more security and peace of mind, knowing  that people that know better than me, did all the hard work for me.

And what did you mean by "maintaining the LLC"? What costs are involved with that outside of initially setting it up, and tax time issues?

side note:  If i pay my debt down, I may be able to qualify for a $30K+ Line of credit from my bank which could be used for down payments until they the holding time is satisfied.   

(you are the man for answering everyone's questions like this, btw)  It is helping me mentally move forward a lot!

Post: So what's holding you back?

Reginald CollierPosted
  • New Jersey(near Philly)
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 4

@Frank Patalano I appreciate the reply.   Thanks for answering the specific questions.

My main focus is to attain the cash flow to retire early.   Who better to ask than the cash flow king.

I currently have about 10K in credit card debt i'm trying to clear.  I also have a personal line of credit of $15K avail(5K balance) that I have been using to accelerate my debt elimination.(eliminated almost $20K in debt since March)

So i don't won't have the 25% down payment anytime soon unless I do rental properties in the $40-$70K range.

My additional questions to you is, how much Cash Flow can I typically expect from a turnkey vs doing it on my own?  I understand that every deal is different.....I'm just looking for typical ballpark numbers.   are we talking $100-$400(max monthly turnkey)  and maybe an additional $100-$200/month by doing it on my own?

I constantly get bombarded with mail offering $30-$50K personal loan options. Could/Should I use this for down payments? And would the bank use this against my DTI, even though the money is sitting in the bank? I would Pay the loan off right away if the Rental Property lets me pull all/most of the equity back out.(after the down payment) to pay off the loan.

Can you even pull money out of a turnkey property?( I hear they take a portion of the equity sometimes?)

Thx again.




Post: So what's holding you back?

Reginald CollierPosted
  • New Jersey(near Philly)
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 4

@Frank Patalano

Living in NJ makes me want to invest out of state.(property taxes) Delaware and Philly are nearby options.

Mentally blocked by:

Analysis paralysis

Considering setting up a Series LLC with Delaware so close.

Considering if I even need a LLC to begin.

Considering a turnkey property as my first(name a few good companies)

Wondering how much money I need in the bank(for reserves and loan requirements)

Need to talk with a CPA to see if it's beneficial to setup an LLC or not(tax benefit wise)

And many more mental blocks.

Help!

Post: S-CORP Or LLC or NONE

Reginald CollierPosted
  • New Jersey(near Philly)
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 4

@Natalie Kolodij

Hey Nat, what is your opinion/expertise on a Series LLC? Some recommend that the LLC's be setup prior to investing because it's more of a pain to transfer after the fact.

Post: Newbie needs direction!

Reginald CollierPosted
  • New Jersey(near Philly)
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Brandon L.:

@Reginald Collier first question, do you rent or own the property you live in?

 I own(pay a mortgage) at my current residence.   I rent some of the rooms out to friends......informally.