Understood. Both lenders have a lender approved short pay option and application that malcolm spoke with them about and they both asked Malcolm to fill out the application for review. Although most post seem to implicate or imply that intent may lean towards a fraud or rip off, that is not the case here. The mortgage company is motivated to get the property off their books. Yes they can foreclose. But they would get less than what Malcolm could offer in a short pay - again the short pay is a legal, lender approved application process with no fraud or ugly no on and a required tax form (forgot the number) that must be filled out to show the IRS that some sort of 'income' indirectly was received. The accountants amoung you will understand that part better than Malcolm and if Malcolm is able to go that way of course my accountant will consult appropriately. The idea and point of Malcolm's post is that since both lenders not only have opened the door to the short pay by myself, but actually have foreclosure proceedings on hold waiting for Malcolm to come forth with financing for a short pay, Malcolm is obviously looking for investor or hard money to take this path - since THEY are opening it up and sent the application for Malcolm to do it. Why would the mortgage company do this ? Because at time of purchase, Malcolm paid appraisal price appropriately. But in Chicago where homes have dropped drastically in value, current appraisal and bpo numbers are what are given above. At foreclosure the lender would get even less especially after legal fees. This above board, completely legal, appropriate way to work with the lender given the opportunity they are offering is what Malcolm is trying to do right now and find hardmoney or investor resources to down that path. But Malcolm is taking the advice above and not going down any path that may even appear suspect. So the thank you above was sincere.