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All Forum Posts by: Clint LeClair

Clint LeClair has started 6 posts and replied 23 times.

Well, it finally happened.  We have a tenant who hired an attorney.  Or maybe an attorney found a tenant that's so far behind in paying rent and has a history of not abiding by the lease, that now suing me is an attractive option!  My cpa has always encouraged that we just get good enough insurance, but that apparently made suing me more attractive!  So, we're ready to secure the different properties in a legal entity.  But they barely break even.  The yearly $800 llc franchise tax fee that Ca imposes would make rei untenable.  

Here's my request, I'm looking for an attorney to outline the upfront and ongoing costs of structuring a Wy holding company that holds the properties in their individual trusts (all properties in Illinois).  If we can find a way of protecting the other properties, as well as our own personal house in a cost efficient manner, we'd love to move forward.

Would you be willing to share how to do so here, for the entire community's benefit?

Thank you,

Clint LeClair

Post: Why am I quoted 25% downpayment for a quadplex in IL?

Clint LeClairPosted
  • Investor
  • Ripon, CA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 5

We have accounts with the a local credit union...I'll definitely hit them up.  Thanks Bjorik and Karl!

Post: Why am I quoted 25% downpayment for a quadplex in IL?

Clint LeClairPosted
  • Investor
  • Ripon, CA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 5

Hello all, and thank you ahead of time for reading and hopefully helping me figure this out.

I'm investing in a college town in Illinois while we live in another state (California).  We found a quadplex that we'd be renting out all 4 units.  I've been going around to the different mortgage brokers and I'm getting numbers that just don't make sense to me.  With a 740 credit rating, I'm quoted a minimum requirement of 25% down for 5+% interest for a 30 year note.  What gives?  What happened to 4% interest and 20% down?  I'm told that the minimum is now 25% for investment properties.  Can someone shine some more light on this?  I asked the brokers that quoted us these numbers.  Their responses were all some variation of "this is how it is now."  Pressed to explain in more detail, they demure away from further explaining.

Hello All, I may have found a BRRR'able mixed use building in Cali...but I've never done a non-exclusively-residential building before. Would the fact that there is a restaurant with the 2 apartments make this a mandatory commercial loan? Does anyone know about seasoning requirements for such a loan? I'd like to pull cash out ASAP for another deal before the end of the year.

If anyone has any references that they can point to as well, I'd appreciate it! Thank you in advance!

Hello All, I may have found a BRRR'able mixed use building in Cali...but I've never done a non-exclusively-residential building before. Would the fact that there is a restaurant with the 2 apartments make this a mandatory commercial loan? Does anyone know about seasoning requirements for such a loan? I'd like to pull cash out ASAP for another deal before the end of the year.

If anyone has any references that they can point to as well, I'd appreciate it!  Thank you in advance!

Post: Sales Tax and Tax Delinquent list in Indianapolis

Clint LeClairPosted
  • Investor
  • Ripon, CA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 5

following!

Post: Multi Family Unit Down Payment

Clint LeClairPosted
  • Investor
  • Ripon, CA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 5

@Kevin Olson, I second what @Matthew Couto is saying about heading to a meetup!  On the tail end of your last response, you threw a few options out for reply.

Single Family home (1 door) to flip "and rake in the profits"....but taxes will eat that up- even if you do everything right in the flip (which has a low probability).  Or go for a multifam. (2, 3, or 4 door)?  So let me answer a question with a question...are you willing to house hack (aka, living in one of the unit while repairing the others or living in a single family home and renting out the other bedrooms)?  That's the lowest risk decision, as you need to personally pay for shelter, yourself.  So it might as well be paying down the mortgage for your investment property.  Frankly, my best advice is to take a network with other investors in real life.  And if you feel comfortable learning under one or two of them, offer to help in whatever their pain points are, so you can see the inside of their operation.  Build trust.  Build value.  These guys aren't your competitors- they are just in the same marathon as you.  And no matter how big their operation is, they have their eye on the guy or gal doing it better and bigger than them.  And listen to the podcasts...start from episode 1 and go all the way through.  They're free.  And all of those guests are here on the forum.  So you can ask them questions to what you didn't understand.

Lastly, get the books. Likely, you've already read "Rich Dad, Poor Dad." It's almost a baptism into real estate, to do so. But Brandon Turner's books are excellent for just starting out and beyond. Right now, I'm getting through the BRRR audiobook as I'm literally swinging the hammer on my latest rehab (I don't need to physically do the rehab...its just my happy place!) and am gathering nuggets that I'd rather not gain through hard knocks.

Frankly, I would not start this race with a sprint to the first door under your belt, unless you were house hacking.  And even then, keeping an eye on the credit cycle, unless a deal was just a no brainer, I'd work on building my credit to be the best it could be and pay down high percentage credit as much as possible.  Right now, you could throw a stone anywhere and hit a lender.  And while they aren't titled as such, they might as well be calling their loans "ninja's" as in "we don't bother to look to hard at your income or job history or credit history"...and we all now know that those loans were really sub-prime or usery loans.  My point is that a good credit rating and liquidity will be much more valuable in the next year or two, than it is now.  So why not invest in the thing that isn't valued as much (as in the mantra of buy low and sell high), by investing in yourself (education) and learning how to make a real estate business operation or system.  

So, that's my 2 cents.  As always, consult ppl smarter than me!

Post: Do I have to pay myself an hourly rate to be a RE Professional?

Clint LeClairPosted
  • Investor
  • Ripon, CA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 5

Hi Natalie, yes, these are rentals that I'm BRRR'ing, and my wife and I are the only members in the LLC. The key question I'm asking is, I'm putting in hundreds of hours and meeting the other requirements but am unsure if just taking the disbursements is enough, or I have to actually pay myself in order to be a RE Professional?

Post: Multi Family Unit Down Payment

Clint LeClairPosted
  • Investor
  • Ripon, CA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 5

Hey Kevin, I'm going to stay as close as I can to the points in your question: You're just starting out (for context, I only have a couple doors, so look for more opinions than mine). So you likely don't have a system in place. You say a 4 door is under contract, but is it under your contract...or are you the "safety offer" if another investor falls through? I'm going to assume its your contract. What are your current and projected numbers? Are you BRRR'ing this, or only downpaying it? How much buffer have you put into your projections? I ask because doing this will always cost more and take more time than the projections...and these are the things you have input in. What about the pending completion of the macro-credit cycle? A recession is objectively due? Will you still be cash flow positive in a 20% lower valuation?

Maybe you don't care about the value dropping as you'll be a "buy and landlord."  But your banker will.  

Commercial is a different beast, altogether.  It's definitely a different system.  Do you have that in place?

My advice?  Answer these questions (and many more)!  If you have built buffers and contingencies into your systems, then consult an old dog and ask if what you're planning makes sense.  

As you're doing your first deal, it's what you don't know that can either suck, or knock you out of the game. The only actionable advice I'd give is to partner, partner, partner- with someone successfully experienced. That way, you'll still be moving forward, and the lower personal ROI is more accurately perceived as either tuition or ****-hit-the-fan insurance. That way, a homerun deal doesn't become a one-hit wonder.

I'm hoping others can add in their opinions...or better, best practices!

Clint