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All Forum Posts by: Clayton Mobley

Clayton Mobley has started 2 posts and replied 853 times.

Post: memphisinvest.com

Clayton Mobley
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  • Birmingham, AL
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Hi @Karolyn Son

I'm sorry to hear about your bad experience in Birmingham, AL. My company is Spartan Invest (& Spartan Value Investors), and we provide a full service turn key experience in Birmingham. I do not want to solicit on BP, but I would like to provide my help in any way. If you need help deciding what to do with your current property, or if you just want information about the area or your options we are here to help - no strings attached. 

Just my two cents, Memphis Invest is a great company, and Memphis is a good market to invest in. Of course, we would always love the opportunity to keep you in Birmingham and make you happy, but you would be choosing one of the industry leaders in Memphis Invest. 

I'm sorry you had such a bad experience, but please believe me in that there are some really great turnkey companies in Birmingham. 

Post: Birmingham Alabama Turn Key Investments

Clayton Mobley
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  • Birmingham, AL
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Sorry for the previous mis-post above. 

@Bryan Miles Thanks for the plug on what I believe was my post on some of the best Alabama Class B Property zip codes. 

I know that there are a lot of good places for rental investment capital out there, but I think Birmingham deserves some credit for some recent success in business and real estate development. I should mention that I live and operate a turnkey and property management business in Birmingham, so I definitely have a bias, but I think there are quite a few tangible mentions about Birmingham and Alabama that a lot of people aren't aware of. Here are just a few:

  • The automotive business is booming in Birmingham with several expansions being announced for the auto manufacturers in our State. Currently we have Honda, Hyundai, Toyota, and Mercedes-Benz. Job creation for these companies has grown steadily over the last several years: 2011-9,800 workers, 2012-10,900, 2013-11,400, 2014-12,500, 2015-12,800. Also, the average annual wage for one of these jobs was $79,000 in 2014. Also a $600M expansion was recently completed to begin manufacturing the C-Class vehicle in addition to the current M-Class production.  
  •  31% of Birmingham of the Birmingham population has lived or resided at their current homes for more than 5 years. This stat gets overlooked a lot but plays a high determination on long term stability that many people should look closely at if you are considering a buy and hold strategy. 
  •  CNN Money ranked Birmingham one of the Top 10 housing markets due to it's previous growth in median home prices, and the publication's projected growth for the upcoming year. 
  • This year in Lausanne, Switzerland, Birmingham was selected to be the host city for the 2021 World Games. The economic impact of this is estimated to be $256 Million. 
  • In 2014, the Birmingham Metropolitan Statistical Area in all three of the following areas: Average Annual Labor Force, Real Gross Domestic Product, Annual Average Employment. Also over the last 3 years, we've seen positive population growth. This is definitely not a fantastic track record, but it's definitely made a positive turn after the previous near 10 years of population decline. 
  • This year ground was broken on a $3.2 Billion interstate extension that will connect and complete a northern loop around Birmingham City and connect all of its popular northeastern, northern, and northwestern suburban areas. 
  • Birmingham was rated America's Most Affordable City in 2015 by Forbes magazine. 
  • This affordability and the proximity of multiple higher learning institutions has led to tremendous millennial growth in the area. Birmingham was ranked #2 in the Nation for Millennial Homebuyer Growth by Builder magazine. The young professional growth was 58% in the City of Birmingham between the years 2010 and 2013. 
  • This year Zagat ranked Birmingham #1 for America's Next Hot Food Cities. Not Atlanta or Nashville, but Birmingham. Okay, so I went a little off topic with this one, but I'm a foodie, and it's part of the reason I decided to settle down here. 

Again, I understand that I am bias because I am really in love with the city, and it is part of my job to sell the City of Birmingham. BUT I can think of a lot harder sells. 

Hope this helps! Feel free to PM me if you want any other information. ALSO, if you want information on Birmingham, the Birmingham Business Alliance is a great resource for current economic data in the area. You can access the BBA website http://birminghambusinessalliance.com/

I hope I am okay to post that web address on here. The Regional Economic Growth Report that they publish really is a good resource for data of the area. 

Post: Birmingham Alabama Turn Key Investments

Clayton Mobley
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  • Birmingham, AL
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@Brian

Post: Birmingham Alabama Turn Key Investments

Clayton Mobley
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  • Birmingham, AL
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Hey @Charlie Palmeri!

**Full disclosure, I own and operate a turnkey investment company and property management company in Birmingham, AL** We have had loads of success with helping hundreds of individuals find a great investment in Birmingham and are always looking for new partners; however, I do not want to solicit to you via a post thread. 

There are two other companies in the area that provide good quality and service that I would go out on a limb to recommend. Decas Group and Alliance Wealth Builders are both good companies to partner with. They both have owners that have been around for a while and have good knowledge of the area. I would encourage you to have conversations with several companies in the area before you make the plunge into Birmingham. 

PM me if I can be of any more help. 

Post: Real estate newbie from Alabama..

Clayton Mobley
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  • Birmingham, AL
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Welcome to BP @Manisha Munikar. Let me know if we can help you out with anything!

Post: Seeking Birmingham, Alabama Turnkey Advice. (Investors Only)

Clayton Mobley
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  • Birmingham, AL
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@Sara Hodge First off thank you so much for starting this thread. This is a great dialog about the best zip codes in Birmingham for rental investment. Full disclosure: I own a turnkey real estate business and a property management company in Birmingham. I only enter the conversation for informational purposes, however. I have a lot of experience in "B" Neighborhoods in the Birmingham Metro Area. As we do not participate in "C" areas, I have limited knowledge here.

@TJ Sayers did a great job mentioning some of our most popular turnkey areas. I wanted to take the opportunity to go into a little more depth about the positives and negatives of some of the different areas that we like. 

5 Best Turnkey Areas / Zip Codes For Class B Properties in Birmingham, AL 

  1. 1. 35215 - Center Point/Roebuck Area - This is a fantastic area where you can get a lot of bang for your buck. There is currently high rental demand in this area, and properties priced accurately generally move off the market quickly from a leasing standpoint. There are also still some good deals out there in the area, and depending on whether you use a turnkey provider or do the renovation yourself, you can expect somewhere between 8.0%-10% ROI (with a Turnkey provider) all the way to 11-14% (if you go at it alone and know what you are doing). Recently this market has become a little saturated with many new entrants - primarily local investors but also some national players like Sayco and Havenbrook. In my opinion, long term capital appreciation looks good in the area as well as the fact that there are an increasing number of owner occupant comparable sales that are bringing the average sales price in the area up. Disclaimer: there is NO way to know which area will be good from a capital appreciation standpoint 5 or 10 years down the road. These are just assumptions based off the data that we have.
  2. 2. 35023 - Hueytown - This is another great area to get a good return for a reasonable price. Hueytown boast a slightly higher owner occupant to tenant resident rate, so you will find better comparable sales in the area, and thus sometimes a higher price of acquisition in this area. You should be able to still get 8-11% return in this area if you find the right deal. If you have to pay a little higher price, this may be offset somewhat by the huge impact this area has to grow with the new additions to the Mercedes Plant in Vance Alabama. Hueytown is conveniently located between Birmingham proper and Vance, so people wanting to live closer to the city often find their home in Hueytown verses the VERY rural Vance. Mercedes-Benz will have the capacity to manufacture 300,000 cars per year in 2015 (up from 185,000 in 2013)! The cool thing is they have no plans of slowing down. It's also worth mentioning the last 5 out of 6 leases we've signed with tenants in that area are working for Mercedes. 
  3. 3. 35235 - Grayson Valley/Chalkville/Roebuck/Center Point - This zip code grabs several areas, but is primarily located in the Clay Chalkville school zone. This zip code snuggles right beside the 35215, but in this area, you can usually expect to get a small premium in rent verses 35215. In the southern part of the zip code (Roebuck area), you are close to Saint Vincent Hospital West where you get a lot of good qualified tenants. In the northern part of the zip code, you have the Clay Chalkville school zone that generally has a higher rating than comparable schools in Center Point and Roebuck. There are a good number of tenants looking to get their kids into the Clay Chalkville school zone, so if you buy here, that is definitely something you should take into consideration because there are parts of the 35235 that are not zoned for Clay Chalkville. 
  4. 4. 35127 - Pleasant Grove - This area is very comparable to the Hueytown area (above), but it covers a slightly less dense geographical territory. We really like this area due to the Mercedes growth mentioned above, but it's also an area where there is a higher owner occupant rate. This is great for resell value and long term capital growth, but sometimes this can cause the property to sit vacant for a little longer between move-out and re-lease. Fewer tenants in the market = longer time to re-lease. 
  5. 5. 35126 - Pinson/Clay - This area is a little more rural, but you need to remember you are investing in Alabama, and people like spots away from the city. There are also a lot of tenants in this area, so your time to re-lease after move-out is not bad. This zip code usually boast a better school zone (Pinson Valley), so there are quite a few people looking to relocate to this area. Even though it's a little further out, the I-59S commute into work is one of the easier travel routes in rush hour traffic (when compared to going north or south on I-65 or traveling on the dreaded HWY-280). 
  6. 6. 35068/35071 - Fultondale & Gardendale - Okay, I promised the top 5, but I didn't want to leave these areas out. This is a high owner occupant area that was highly affected by the foreclosure crisis and has already come back a good bit. You might be hard pressed to find the same ROI deals in this area, and it may be beneficial to settle for 7-9% ROI because I believe the capital appreciation play is really good in these areas. The school systems in these two areas are a good bit better than the other school systems mentioned, and there is very little land left to build in these areas. Combine that with its close proximity to the city center, and I think your long term ROI may be better here than in any of the other areas. If capital preservation is a BIG factor for you, hunt for deals here. They can still be found on occasion.

There are several other areas worth mentioning that I would also recommend for Class B Investment: parts of 35214 - Forestdale, 35210 - Irondale, parts of 35022 - Bessemer, and any Hoover zip code: 35243, 35226, 35244, 35242. There are also some good areas south of Hoover (Pelham, Alabaster, Calera, Helena, etc.), but these can be quite a trek for your property manager, so make sure you have that figured out before investing too far from Birmingham proper.  Again please keep in mind that I am a turnkey provider doing ONLY Class B (some Class A) properties that are not Section 8, so my opinions have a bit of a tilt, but hopefully this was a good breakdown on some good rental areas in the Birmingham MSA. Also, keep in mind that the ROIs mentioned above are based on all cash deals, so use your personal financing specifications to adjust accordingly. One more note, PLEASE be careful with any zip code including the ones mentioned above because there can be large swings in any one geographical area.  

Post: Where are the Birmingham,AL investors?

Clayton Mobley
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  • Birmingham, AL
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Sounds like a great idea. Count me in! Please let me know if there is anything I can do to assist!

Post: Hello Birmingham

Clayton Mobley
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  • Birmingham, AL
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Hello Matthew,

It's good to see you on Bigger Pockets and even better to have you as a part of the Birmingham market. Please let me know if there is anything we can do to assist you in the area or in the real estate market in general. 

Post: Best Buy & Hold Book?

Clayton Mobley
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  • Birmingham, AL
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Great suggestions in here. Thanks everyone!

Post: Best Buy & Hold Book?

Clayton Mobley
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  • Birmingham, AL
  • Posts 875
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@Tyrus Shivers & @David Krulac

Thank you both for your referrals. I'm looking forward to soaking all of those up. I've been using the buy and hold strategy for quite a while, but I'm searching for the best book to recommend to investors that we sell rental properties to. Some are newbies and some have more experience, but many have asked for my advice on good literature. Reading these and any more you would suggest would be a step in the right direction for me. Thanks Again!