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All Forum Posts by: Clayton Barnes

Clayton Barnes has started 2 posts and replied 53 times.

Post: Partnering with Cousins on Flips

Clayton BarnesPosted
  • Bloomington, IN
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 37

If you're paying them what you were going to pay a GC as well as giving them 50% of the profits what are you getting out of the deal? Couldn't you just hire a GC and keep 100% of the profits, or hire their company as the GC at a fair rate without needing to partner with them? This sort of just sounds like they're using your money to get a really great rate for the work they're already doing.

Post: Hey look another market crash post!

Clayton BarnesPosted
  • Bloomington, IN
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 37
Originally posted by @Jeshua Patrick:

Clayton Barnes glad to hear everything worked out for you. We were more on the hard knocks without a clue side. We lost 50% of our income a couple years after the market crashed close to the bottom of the market, had one house purchased at the peak of the market, and a second purchased a little before bottom. We were over leveraged, terrified of additional risk, and had no one who understood the rental market. In hindsight, we could have probably gotten creative and made it work but I had just rebuilt my credit from a bad situation and didn't feel I could afford to destroy it again. We definitely learned a lot and now we are trying to learn some more in preparation for an aggressive entry into REI in about 12 months.

Shoulda, coulda, woulda, right! Glad you've been able to recover and I hope your REI career takes off in a big way.

Post: Would you buy with this issue?

Clayton BarnesPosted
  • Bloomington, IN
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 37

Ask your contractor what his worst case guess would be. If you go with that assumption you should be able to run the numbers and see if it still seems like it would work.

On a side note I'm confused on what you're describing. Are you saying there is a "huge" crack in the foundation that is raised up? I'm surprised that foundation work is allowed by the HOA as it could potentially affect the structural integrity of any attached units etc.

Post: Square Foot Detective

Clayton BarnesPosted
  • Bloomington, IN
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 37
Originally posted by @Robert Leonard:

Hey @Casey Faul, @Robert Hudson nailed it.  You have to measure the house.  Even if the seller told you a number, you always want to measure for yourself to verify the square footage.  If you don't do it yourself, have somebody do it as one of your first steps in your due diligence during your inspection period.

Our parish (same as counties elsewhere) do not have the level of detail that shows square footage or even number of BR/BA of properties in any of their records.

 Our county does show all that, but it is still wrong a significant portion of the time. I think you're absolutely right that measuring should be part of your due diligence.

Post: Hey look another market crash post!

Clayton BarnesPosted
  • Bloomington, IN
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 37
Originally posted by @Jeshua Patrick:

Clayton Barnes I think maybe you have the wrong mindset. Yes, sometimes we find ourselves in a tough spot because of bad timing; however, we more often make things worse by following up our "bad luck" with a worse decision rooted in emotions. For example, you bought at the peak of the market and feel that you were unlucky; however, many markets are now at much higher prices than they were at the peak. Had you had the wherewithal to hold and wait you wouldn't feel so unlucky. That's not to say that holding a bad investment in the hopes that it will somehow turn into a good one is a good idea. I'm just saying that if you take a step back when it feels like things aren't going right, think about what led you to where you are and what your reasons for making the decisions you made were, you can often find the best strategy moving forward. That's why it's good to have multiple exit strategies and understand how to recognize which one to use in the moment. Sometimes the best exit strategy is to not exit at all but wait for the panicked crowd to finish their exit and then collect the treasure they left behind.

It was more said in jest, than any feeling of actually being upset. The home buy wasn't really an issue. We had hit a point financially where we wanted to buy a home to live in. We bought and value dropped slightly, but I still had a home that was well within our budget and a great interest rate on the mortgage. The value has recovered and we've got about 60%+ equity in the home. It'll make a great rental when we decide to move. So I'm in a good spot. It just made me a bit jealous seeing other folks buy a year later at better prices and get an $8k tax credit etc.

Post: Home Inspection Found Termite Damage - My Plan

Clayton BarnesPosted
  • Bloomington, IN
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 37

Is it a flip or a rental?

If you're shying away as an investor who is willing to put work in, then it might be a total no go for a buyer who wants something move in ready. I think this has a lot of regional variance. The farther south you go the more common and therefore less scary termites become to potential buyers.

Post: Hey look another market crash post!

Clayton BarnesPosted
  • Bloomington, IN
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 37

I'm a newbie, but from what I've gathered the idea of waiting until the crash is sort of baked into what people mean when they say "the right price." They're using a calculation in their strategy that is accounting for potential bad times. So they aren't buying properties that will suddenly be underwater if property values or rents start to drop. If the market is inflated and people are buying everything up, then their right price isn't going to come around very often. That may mean that they're holding onto their money until a more favorable market arrives.

However, I've got an amazing knack for buying into things at exactly the wrong time. I bought my first home December '07. I sold two beat up old vehicles two weeks before the cash for clunkers thing was announced and the list goes on. I'm now looking into real estate investing, so that probably means the next crash is just waiting for me to write a check.

Post: The Coming Death of Airbnb

Clayton BarnesPosted
  • Bloomington, IN
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 37

It certainly seems worth having a backup plan, but not doing something that doesn't seem morally wrong out of fear that it may some day violate regulations seems premature to me. I wouldn't buy a property that needs to airbnb successfully for the next 30 years, but if you can increase your profits over the next few years and just go back to renting it as a normal unit why not?

Post: Ahead of the Path of Progress, but how far ahead?

Clayton BarnesPosted
  • Bloomington, IN
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 37

If you're looking at holding it how do you end up on cash flow on potential deals you're seeing? Would you be losing a ton of money until the progress part comes around?

If you can find a property that cash flows reasonably now and has good potential growth, then it sounds like you're in a good spot even if that growth is several years out or something changes and the path of progress goes elsewhere.

Can you contact the HOA or get their policy to figure out why they changed the roof? If they replaced it due to it being completely shot and ruining neighborhood appeal, then you may have serious issues. If they did it proactively to prevent that, then it may not be so bad.

A house near me has been abandoned a little less time than that and the roof has rotted through. Due to the water going into the attic the ceiling has fallen through etc. So if you look in a window all you see is moldy attic insulation covering the floor. Beautiful natural light though! It's probably a complete gut down to the studs and possibly even replacing a significant portion of those.