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All Forum Posts by: Cj Thompson

Cj Thompson has started 4 posts and replied 14 times.

Post: I need some guidance about reserve money

Cj ThompsonPosted
  • Rockford, Il
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:
Originally posted by @Cj Thompson:
Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:
Originally posted by @Cj Thompson:
Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:

@Cj Thompson there is no set answer on the amount of reserves needed. It depends on the quality of the property and location. For example, if the property was completely rehabed with new roof, new HVAC, new water heater, new appliances, then you are mainly looking at plumbing repairs or tenant damage. Reserves for lost rents depends on the location. High demand areas should not need months of reserves. The one thing that has be concerned is your $50K house price. It is harder to get loans in that price range. That type of price point is likely a C- or D area, so you can expect lower quality tenants. They may be rougher on the property or you could have more payment issues. Unless you are there to self manage, I would stay away from $50K properties. I know some of the turn key companies sell properties in that price range, but some of them are real trouble so be careful.

Me personally, I like to do CAPEX proactively, so I pick older roofs or older HVAC to replace before they totally go out.

Good goals you have set for yourself. You are on the right track thinking it through. Good luck!

 Yea I get what your saying plus if u have it inspected you should have an idea of what major repairs it may need in the future. 

The 40-50k houses I was looking at are in class C areas. The houses them selfs look decent in photos compared to others. They meet the %2 rule. That's what I could afford now and in the near future.

I feel like a house like that would be better off with a property manager. Am I wrong? U say it's better if I manage it?

 Most houses that cost $40-50K are not in C areas. That price point indicates higher crime areas and less desirable if it is in a urban area. The fact that they are 2% properties means plan on extra management time and rougher tenants. If the areas were nice, they wouldn't be 2% properties. If you hire a PM, make sure they specialize in that type of property. It is way different managing properties like that versus B properties. You can make lots of money, just be ready for lots of tenant issues.

 I actualy don't think that's %100 accurate becuase I think it depends on the area.  But for the most part I think you are right don't get me wrong.

In my city you can get a very nice 3 bd ranch style house in a good naborhood for 80-100k.

In clas D naborhoods that are really bad u can find houses 10-30 k 

That same 80-100k house I'm talking about in the suburbs of Chicago could be 250k idk the actual number but u understand.

The house I live in was a 45k foreclosure and it's in a naborhood with mostly 80k plus houses in is a nice naborhood however the city has just build project apartments in it so I assume this naborhood is a class be turning class c and maybe worse 

You purchased a $45K foreclosure but in an $80K neighborhood. I would call that an $80K house that you purchased for $45K, which is different than buying a $40K house in a neighborhood where all the houses are worth $40K or less. My point is that lower value properties will return higher cash flow but come with more tenant issues. 

I definitely get your point and agree. I'm just trying to find a middle ground. Planning for the repairs and vacancy and letting the property manager deal with the headaches. The PM I talked to claims to have 3% vacancy on 500 property's. From talking to him it seems like hes at least able to fill the place when it's needed.  

Post: I need some guidance about reserve money

Cj ThompsonPosted
  • Rockford, Il
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:
Originally posted by @Cj Thompson:
Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:

@Cj Thompson there is no set answer on the amount of reserves needed. It depends on the quality of the property and location. For example, if the property was completely rehabed with new roof, new HVAC, new water heater, new appliances, then you are mainly looking at plumbing repairs or tenant damage. Reserves for lost rents depends on the location. High demand areas should not need months of reserves. The one thing that has be concerned is your $50K house price. It is harder to get loans in that price range. That type of price point is likely a C- or D area, so you can expect lower quality tenants. They may be rougher on the property or you could have more payment issues. Unless you are there to self manage, I would stay away from $50K properties. I know some of the turn key companies sell properties in that price range, but some of them are real trouble so be careful.

Me personally, I like to do CAPEX proactively, so I pick older roofs or older HVAC to replace before they totally go out.

Good goals you have set for yourself. You are on the right track thinking it through. Good luck!

 Yea I get what your saying plus if u have it inspected you should have an idea of what major repairs it may need in the future. 

The 40-50k houses I was looking at are in class C areas. The houses them selfs look decent in photos compared to others. They meet the %2 rule. That's what I could afford now and in the near future.

I feel like a house like that would be better off with a property manager. Am I wrong? U say it's better if I manage it?

 Most houses that cost $40-50K are not in C areas. That price point indicates higher crime areas and less desirable if it is in a urban area. The fact that they are 2% properties means plan on extra management time and rougher tenants. If the areas were nice, they wouldn't be 2% properties. If you hire a PM, make sure they specialize in that type of property. It is way different managing properties like that versus B properties. You can make lots of money, just be ready for lots of tenant issues.

 I actualy don't think that's %100 accurate becuase I think it depends on the area.  But for the most part I think you are right don't get me wrong.

In my city you can get a very nice 3 bd ranch style house in a good naborhood for 80-100k.

In clas D naborhoods that are really bad u can find houses 10-30 k 

That same 80-100k house I'm talking about in the suburbs of Chicago could be 250k idk the actual number but u understand.

The house I live in was a 45k foreclosure and it's in a naborhood with mostly 80k plus houses in is a nice naborhood however the city has just build project apartments in it so I assume this naborhood is a class be turning class c and maybe worse 

Post: I need some guidance about reserve money

Cj ThompsonPosted
  • Rockford, Il
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:

@Cj Thompson there is no set answer on the amount of reserves needed. It depends on the quality of the property and location. For example, if the property was completely rehabed with new roof, new HVAC, new water heater, new appliances, then you are mainly looking at plumbing repairs or tenant damage. Reserves for lost rents depends on the location. High demand areas should not need months of reserves. The one thing that has be concerned is your $50K house price. It is harder to get loans in that price range. That type of price point is likely a C- or D area, so you can expect lower quality tenants. They may be rougher on the property or you could have more payment issues. Unless you are there to self manage, I would stay away from $50K properties. I know some of the turn key companies sell properties in that price range, but some of them are real trouble so be careful.

Me personally, I like to do CAPEX proactively, so I pick older roofs or older HVAC to replace before they totally go out.

Good goals you have set for yourself. You are on the right track thinking it through. Good luck!

 Yea I get what your saying plus if u have it inspected you should have an idea of what major repairs it may need in the future. 

The 40-50k houses I was looking at are in class C areas. The houses them selfs look decent in photos compared to others. They meet the %2 rule. That's what I could afford now and in the near future.

I feel like a house like that would be better off with a property manager. Am I wrong? U say it's better if I manage it?

Post: I need some guidance about reserve money

Cj ThompsonPosted
  • Rockford, Il
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Roger S.:

I'm very happy with 30k combined for my 10 houses.

Do you continue to save a percentage of rent towards repairs and cap ex or do u take all the profit and just refill the 30k as some is used?

Post: I need some guidance about reserve money

Cj ThompsonPosted
  • Rockford, Il
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 3

ok thanks. I did call one monster mega bank who said they only do 60k plus loans but I wouldn't give up there. I'm looking to buy more turn key properties right now. 

I think if I was to do a rehab brrrr stratagy I'd need a realtor, appraiser  and contractor to colaberate what the cost of rehab would be and what the final product would apraise for.  I do not feel comfortable or confident doing that on my own. And I don't have time to do any of the work other then maybe 16 hours on weekends

Correction I do not want to spend the time.

Post: I need some guidance about reserve money

Cj ThompsonPosted
  • Rockford, Il
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 3

@ Daniel Rutledge

I would buy these I assume with a %20 down bank loan.

The reserve im talking about is just to be prepared for the worst. So I know u want to have 6 months of PITI but then the rest would be in case of major repairs needed I.E. roof, furnace, sewar pipe.

I tend to be conservative and I like to have reserves or emergency funds. I'm not even too crazy about debt in general. I lissen to a lot of dave Ramsey. 

I guess I'm trying to figure out what's a reasonable amount for my first property and also for the 2nd, 3rd, etc. assuming by that time I'd have collected rents and set aside 20% for repairs and capex. 

Post: I need some guidance about reserve money

Cj ThompsonPosted
  • Rockford, Il
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 3

My goal is cash flow and earn $100k per year from rent. Assuming $200 per door after setting aside all expenses conservatively. I'm actually trying to look ahead and plan how much I can save for new deals over time. My goal would be to retire by 45-50 yo. Right now I'm 30yo.

I live rent free at the moment and I save $500 per month in Roth IRA. Also I can even bump that some. At some point il need to get my own place and I hope to house hack or use some investment property income to cover living expense.

So not counting the brrrr stratagy(not confident with it yet) I'm adding up how much I can save over time.

I'm assuming I need to have $10k in reserves for each $50k property. Now this is my first question. Is this $10k necessary for each house? So for 2 I need $20k? I do believe I should have $10k starting out for the first property, that's smart, but by the time I get the second I may have built up more reserve from the % of rent I set aside for repairs. I know capex needs to continue to build up for major upgrades/repairs but what's the safe nunber for reserves?

I'm asking becuase if I had to save 10k for each property it's going to take a lot longer. I definitely want to have adequat reserves I'm all about that and that's why I want to know what's a good conservative amount without going overboard and loosing possible money that could go to deals.

Is there a good technical book about the Cash flow buy and hold stratagy? 

By the way I would love to do the brrrr stratagy I just don't feel like I can at this point. But I'm sure il understand if I get into this game 

Originally posted by @Andrew Johnson:

Cj Thompson Just some food for thought: Have you talked to a commercial lender? Since it's a commercial property (with the business) you'll have to handle whatever terms they have. Ignoring the amortization table at the moment, they'll usually want to see 6-9 months of PITI and/or a net worth larger than the loan amount. If you're almost broke I'm not sure how you'd jump either of those hurdles. If you went the HML route you'll end up with a materially higher interest rate. Not to say it's the bad choice, but it impacts your numbers and potential exit.

 Yea my net worth does not match the loan amount lol but I'm not flat broke. I would def like to have good reserves for any deal I do and how much I should have I'm trying to understand.

I'm actualy gonna pass on this one. I don't think I want to start with a commercial property. Plus I don't have the down payment plus reserves I rather start out with somthing half as expensive but with the same 2% rule.

I have some money I'm really just trying to figure out more before I do a deal. I'm gonna keep reading lissening and asking questions.

Post: Newbie idk if this is a good first deal

Cj ThompsonPosted
  • Rockford, Il
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 3

Thanks for your reply. I know I think I should have money for a deal plus like a 6-12 month emergency fund. That would take me a while to save.