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All Forum Posts by: Chris Wight

Chris Wight has started 2 posts and replied 9 times.

Post: Lessons Learned From My 1st (Failed) Deal

Chris WightPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 1

Thanks for the support Ed. I didn't take on the rehab myself because I don't have the experience, money or time to do so. Otherwise I totally would have. The written offers here in MA are actually required,where as in some other parts of the country you can just have a verbal agreement which isn't worth the paper it's written on. This was my very first deal, and I like your attitude towards using the F word!

Post: Lessons Learned From My 1st (Failed) Deal

Chris WightPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 1

Dell, the realtor is how I came up with the $600k estimate. He lives in the same town and knows the area well. My buyer seems to have had a rather conservative hml.

Post: Lessons Learned From My 1st (Failed) Deal

Chris WightPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 1

Dell, that's really surprising. Do you have to provide construction plans too, or just a list? You must have a very good relationship with your lender!

Post: Lessons Learned From My 1st (Failed) Deal

Chris WightPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 1

Hi David, since the problem wasn't with the purchase price, but rather the project ARV, an appraisal wouldn't have helped. You can't appraise work that hasn't been done yet.

Post: Lessons Learned From My 1st (Failed) Deal

Chris WightPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 1

Thanks, Sean. Although not everyone does them (I certainly didn't when I bought my own house) written offers are technically required in Massachusetts. Being my first deal, I wanted everything to be by the book. It also only serves to protect me as the buyer, so there's no real downside.

Post: Lessons Learned From My 1st (Failed) Deal

Chris WightPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 1

Thankfully the offer was contingent on financing. I put up $500, but the only thing I lost was a few weeks of my time.

Post: Lessons Learned From My 1st (Failed) Deal

Chris WightPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 1

Thanks, Ann! I think I actually got your business card at one of the BostonAREIA meetings I went to. Always good to network with a good lender.

Post: Lessons Learned From My 1st (Failed) Deal

Chris WightPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 1

I had planned on writing a very different post today. A triumphant post outlining the details of my very first wholesale deal and what an unmitigated success it was. Alas, such was not the case, as the deal fell through at the last minute. Rather than dwell on losing out on a sizeable assignment fee, I figured I would share some of the lessons I learned in the process.

First, a little history:
A realtor approached me through one of my ads seeking investors. He said he had a great opportunity that I should check out. The house was a single family colonial in an exclusive neighborhood of an affluent suburb north of Boston. It was perfect. Three bed, 2 bath on just over an acre of land backing up to protected woodlands that needed a lot of updating. The owner was a developer who bought it for his daughter and planned to rehab it himself, but his daughter ran off with her boyfriend. Asking price was $375K, and I negotiated it down to $305k.

Comps for the town are in the mid $400k range, but this particular neighborhood was more like the mid $600ks. This part of town is pretty exclusive with two country clubs, protected woodlands and beautiful houses. Because of this, there is very little turnover, making actual comps difficult. I estimated about $150k worth of work on the house to make it worth $600k, and was asking for a $15k assignment fee.

In Massachusetts, we have to submit a written offer that is a binding contract with the seller. It basically protects against a seller accepting other offers. Think of it like a pre-P&S. In the offer, we scheduled the P&S for today 2/15, giving me plenty of time to find a buyer and for them to get their ducks in a row. I sent the property out to my buyer list and got a lot of responses, scheduled three showings, and by the end of the week I had a buyer- or so I thought.

The buyer had joined my list saying they paid cash. Their website said they pay cash. Their business cards say they pay cash. Cash, cash, cash. After they saw the property and did their due diligence, they told me that they wanted to move forward and just had to clear it with their hard money lender. Uh-oh.
Seeing comps for the area at $450k, the lender didn't see the how they could sell it for the profit needed to make it worthwhile. Two days before we were scheduled to go to P&S and I was to collect half of my fee, the buyers backed out. I was left with no buyer, no fee and no time to line up a new buyer before my offer expired. Deal=dead.

Lesson #1: Beware exclusive neighborhoods!
Any neighborhood that is really exclusive is going to have very low turnover, which makes running accurate comps virtually impossible. Inaccurate comps means everybody is going to be working off the wrong numbers, and that puts you at a big disadvantage.

Lesson 2#: Interview your buyers thoroughly!
Cash is cash. Hard money, although not a traditional mortgage, is still not cash. Ask your buyers questions like “Are you financing this, or paying cash?” and “Are you the decision maker, or is someone else going to have the final say on this deal?” When your buyers are using hard money, that’s one more party being added to the mix who has to say yes- one more cook to spoil the soup.

I learned some tough lessons on my first almost-deal. While I would have preferred that $15k I had coming to me, I still got a lot of value from the education. And now I’m spreading the wealth.

Post: Flipping the House Next Door

Chris WightPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 1

One of my next door neighbors passed away a while back. In speaking with another neighbor the other day, I learned that the next of kin were looking to sell the house.

Perfect lead!

My neighbor's concern was that the family would take a low-ball offer just to sell it quick- our modus operandi. The reason it concerned him was that it would affect our own property values.

So I ask you all, would you make a 70% offer on the house next door, despite the hit your own home value could take?