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All Forum Posts by: Chris Wilson

Chris Wilson has started 7 posts and replied 86 times.

Post: Trump Policies Will Put Downward Pressure on Real Estate Rents/Prices

Chris Wilson
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  • Coupeville, WA
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 70
Quote from @Steve K.:

@Scott Trench Eliminating so many federal jobs is already having a big ripple effect on the economy and the housing market.

I saw it firsthand here locally when I lost 2 deals this past week because of it. One of my buyers had to back out of her first home purchase because she lost her job at NCAR. Any market with a lot of federal jobs is in trouble which is a big change because previously these were considered recession-resistant markets as federal jobs are usually very stable. 

Also lost a buyer on a listing I have. they cancelled during inspection because the property needs an easement from the forest service for a driveway. This normally is not a big deal and takes about the same amount of time as getting the building permit. But the buyer called the forest service to check and found out it will be 4-5 years minimum now, thanks to recent layoffs, so these buyers would now have to wait 4-5 years to build their house, and they backed out. 

So I think that all the federal layoffs that DOGE is implementing right now will have big ripple effects that are negative for the real estate market. 

Decimating HUD by terminating half the employees there like he says he's going to do will also have a big negative effect on the real estate market. Especially section 8 rentals of course because HUD struggled to manage that program before. Payments may be delayed or funding cut, tenants receiving section 8 may have to be evicted, etc. and all the mess around that but also the halting of any new construction projects of affordable housing and community centers etc. , and communities, families, and small businesses impacted by disasters will be unable to rebuild... it will not be good.

Eliminating the CFPB also seems like it will have a big negative effect on the health of the housing market (The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which was created by congress after the 2008 financial crisis to reduce the risk of another financial crisis). The former director just said that Trump was "begging for another financial crisis" by shutting down the CFPB.

Most economists agree that Trump's policies will be inflationary: significant tax cuts for businesses, tariffs on imports, and deporting undocumented immigrants. Inflation is already going back up due to Trumps policies. This means that interest rates will need to stay high to combat inflation. This means less buyers and a weaker real estate market. The 10-year Treasury bond yield jumped by more than 14 points after the election. When the Treasury bond yield rises, interest rates on everything from mortgages to fixed-income investments to business loans also increases. Rising T-bond yields is bad news for mortgages and the real estate industry.

 I think we may see the world's first Trillionaires during Trump's presidency, but it will probably just be Trump and his billionaire buddies, while anyone who is not already a billionaire may suffer. 


 It's his plan to get the fed to lower interest rates. Fire so many people and the other jobs related or dependent on them that will go away as well will cause the unemployment rate to rise high enough and fast enough to compel the fed to lower rates.

Post: Trump Policies Will Put Downward Pressure on Real Estate Rents/Prices

Chris Wilson
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  • Coupeville, WA
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 70
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jay-powell-says-donald-trump-...Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

Here's my take, I believe you are missing some key points (or assuming incorrectly :-)

Put upward pressure on interest rates: Trump's demand that the Fed lower rates will have absolutely no effect.


I disagree. Presidents can, will and do put pressure on the Fed chair. They hire them and can fire them, it's not realistic to think there is no pressure on them. I say Trump puts his size 11s up Powells butt by this summer.

However, the implementation of tariffs, or just the threat of tariffs, is likely to influence rates, by impacting inflation numbers, and this influence may come quickly if prices for many common goods and services and raw materials rise

You are assuming that the typical view of Tariffs that we hear from the Dems and the Media are the way they actually work. If you listen to other economists, there are different views on this. And once the 'Reciprocal Tariffs' go into effeect, that's a whole new game. This whole Tariff thing should be short-lived anyway, I see little effect on the economy overall...

I personally believe it is unlikely that Trump actually deports millions of illegal immigrants who have settled in the United States. This, to me, seems impractical, and a PR nightmare.

I think Mr Trump will indeed deport 'a bunch', probably many millions by the time we are done, but certainly I would see the number in excess of a million, easy. He doesn't care about the PR either, the most recent poll saw 70% approval IIRC. The immigration was a huge reason he was elected.

Just my $.02.......

Presidents cannot fire or demote the fed chairman without cause, that is the law of the land for good reason.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jay-powell-says-donald-trump-...

Post: Are the forums on BiggerPockets getting worse and worse or is it just me?

Chris Wilson
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  • Coupeville, WA
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 70

One of the constants that I still see from when I first started on BP in early 2016 is the willingness of experienced ( some on this very thread ) folks in different aspects of real estate to try and help newbies and others with advice and perspective.

I think it really is a testament to the fact that even though the investing environment has undergone many changes over those years the willingness to continue to help others has not changed.

It helped me tremendously when I had to crash course on small MF ownership and I am grateful to all who helped with posts that they didn't even know that I had read and learned from.

And yes the search function remains fairly useless and unchanged in that regard since then to the detriment of us all.

Post: Why do people Buy Property in California

Chris Wilson
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  • Coupeville, WA
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 70
Quote from @Dan H.:
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Allen Maris:

It always seems the people that don't live in CA or have ever lived in CA are always the one leading the bandwagon of "why would anyone live in CA?". I say that about many many parts of our country as well. It goes both ways.


 Of course someone who doesn't live in California would be one to say this. If we wanted to live in California we could. We choose not to.


 Many people cannot afford to live in the coastal Ca cities.  I have a friend that moved from San Diego CA to Michigan in the late 1990s.  He has indicated he wants to move back to San Diego but the cost would affect his quality of life.  He bought in Michigan when he moved there, but the property value is far lower than a similar purchase in San Diego would have achieved.  He probably could not buy a starter home for the value of his Michigan property that is fairly nice (on a pond and far nicer than a starter home in San Diego).

There is a reason more people choose to live in CA than any other state and it is not even that close.  However, informing others of all the reasons would be contrary to my desire to not encourage people to move to CA.

so CA $ucks.  There is no reason anyone should move to CA.

Best wishes


 I actually heard a podcast recently where they were talking about a syndicator they knew who invests in CA and was thrilled that nobody else wanted to because it limited his competition.

Post: Why do people Buy Property in California

Chris Wilson
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  • Coupeville, WA
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 70
Quote from @James Hamling:
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @Steve K.:


A) I had to fact check this after your last statement about the CA population declining ended up being false due to only accounting for our-migration and not including immigration,



B) The actual estimate is that less than 25% of the nations homeless people live in California, not 51%.

A) Immigration by foreign individuals is not counted (generally) because it is not a definitive marker. As you probably know, California includes all foreign immigration - both legal and illegal to boost the numbers. What does counting hordes of illegals tell us? Other than that we're all F'ed. Even legal immigrants are not reliable numbers because they will/may be short-term residents and also do not have the same benefits or detriments of US citizens. Using state-to-state numbers is much more accurate as far as telling us what is going on with our country and states.We need to know where US CITIZENS want to live and why. It's just common sense. (BTW - The NET loss was about 700 people per day.)

Newsweek - More Americans left California between 2023 and 2024 than any other state across the country, according to new data released by the Census Bureau.

The Golden State lost a total of 239,575 residents to other states, the largest net domestic migration loss in the country over the past year.

B) So you're going to combine unsheltered people and basic homeless? They are different according to the homeless community. https://invisiblepeople.tv/homeless-houseless-unhoused-or-un...
"Unsheltered is a more general term that is only sometimes meant as a synonym for homeless. In everyday use, it could just mean “exposed to the elements” like an unsheltered bus stop. When it comes to homelessness, it usually refers to someone who is living in an area that is not meant for human habitation, like a car, sidewalk, or park. 
In that sense, it would exclude homeless people who are living in shelters or other temporary housing."

So when you add up the 'homeless' and the 'unsheltered' you actually do get 51%....

Look, we can split hairs all day long and argue "well by this metric it looks...." blah blah blah..... 

Here's the deal: 

One Hundred and eight seven THOUSAND!!!!!!! Spin spin SPIN away, that's still a TON of people. That literally a major city of homeless. 

To put this into context: 

CA has more than 20X the homeless MN has. 

And CA has only 6.8X the population of MN....... 

Facts....... 

So yes, to me, CA has a SIGNIFICANT amount more of homeless than what I am used to seeing, because IT DOES. 

And before we cry "weather, but MN is cold weather in winter":

California has 6.24X the homeless of Florida

Yet CA only has 1.7X the population of FL.

Fruit for thought. 


 Oh I agree it's way too big a number, no doubt about that. You have the usual causes like drugs/alcohol problems, mental illness and then you have the working poor who remain homeless. LA in 2024 had a minimum wage of $19.33 an hour. 52 weeks at 40 hours a week grosses you $3,350 a month. Take a look at the rents in LA currently in one of the attached links. The cost of housing in CA contributes to some of the homeless population, many working people are only a few missed paychecks away from losing their current residence. 



Working While Homeless: A Tough Job For Thousands Of Californians : NPR

Average Rent in Los Angeles, CA - 2025 Rent Prices

Hard truths about deinstitutionalization, then and now - CalMatters


Post: Why do people Buy Property in California

Chris Wilson
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  • Coupeville, WA
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 70

I know syndicators who say they won't buy in CA because it's too expensive. However they do choose to live in CA for many of the positives listed by folks previously. Weather, diversity of options between beach, desert and mountains. If you have never been in the coastal redwoods it is a must do experience, it's like traveling back in time and expecting to see a Dinasaur coming around the bend.

Food, stunning scenic beauty and oh yeah the weather again. It certainly has it's challenges but there are many reasons why it is the most populous state in the Union. 

Post: Why do people Buy Property in California

Chris Wilson
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  • Coupeville, WA
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 70

@James Hamling

Not trolling but just trying to provide some context about why states and other countries like CA have such stringent earth quake codes that keep getting updated.

I will never really understand the power of a Cat4 or Cat5 hurricane until I experience one. I have been in a 6.8 and 6.9 earthquake in WA and CA respectively. The 6.8 was some 65 miles south of me, I was on the 2nd floor of an office building that shook so hard for a minute that people were having problems staying standing up. A 7.0 releases some 32 times the amount of energy as the atomic bomb used on Hiroshima. 

https://www.omnicalculator.com/other/earthquake

Post: Why do people Buy Property in California

Chris Wilson
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  • Coupeville, WA
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 70
Quote from @Steve K.:
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @Steve K.:
Sure they are everywhere. But 51% of all homeless and 'unsheltered' in the entire country are in Cali...just numbers.
Not sure about Tucson, but PHX was court-ordered to removed thousand(s) from the downtown area. Much better now.
So it is indeed a national problem, but is just much worse in Cali.

 I had to fact check this after your last statement about the CA population declining ended up being false due to only accounting for our-migration and not including immigration, and once again you’ve gotten the info mixed up. The actual estimate is that less than 25% of the nations homeless people live in California, not 51%. Big difference there, you more than doubled the percentage so yeah it’s just numbers but your numbers are wrong. I think where your 51% probably came from is that a large percentage of the homeless people in California sleep outdoors (unsheltered homeless people, a subset of the overall homeless population). Current estimates are that 45% of the countries UNSHELTERED homeless people live in CA, not overall homeless. That’s simply because they can sleep outside there compared to homeless people in colder climates who must sleep in shelters so they don’t freeze to death.

Homelessness is a big problem in CA but they are also doing more than any other state to address it and homelessness only increased 3% there last year compared to double digits in many other states. Again, it’s a nationwide systemic problem not just a CA problem. 


 Not taking any sides in the polite ( thank you ) numbers conversation but I am curious about the per capita comparisons. 25% is still a big number even though CA has some 11% to 12% of the total US population. Compared to some other states with larger homeless populations what do those per capita numbers look like? Comparing against some smaller population states could just be unfair comparisons for those states.

Post: Why do people Buy Property in California

Chris Wilson
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  • Coupeville, WA
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 70
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

Of course there are few if any homeless in Encinitas or the average street corner throughout this huge county...but just go downtown and drive around. You people that don't see the huge number of homeless in Cali just do not want to see them because it hurts your narrative. CA has more than half of the nations homeless/unsheltered persons. 

I went to a Padres game just a few months ago (Sept) and was stunned at the large number of people laying around on the sidewalks (and the stench) in what is a fairly nice part of town. Compare that to Phoenix where I had been to a game just one month earlier. On a 5 block walk to get to Chase Field, there was exactly ONE possibly 'homeless person' and he was playing the guitar for everyone.


 Yes it very much depends on where you go in a major city for the most part. I will stay down in the Pacific Beach/Mission Beach area when we visit San Diego. When I was young South Mission was considered an unsafe area, it's multi million $ properties now. One place I have stayed a couple of times at you can look out the window see the Ocean and the beach and the cops moving the homeless away from the grass and benches there. San Diego polices those tourist beach areas hard, they groom the sand to deal with the kelp and anything else that shouldn't be there. I have been going to Phoenix for maybe 12 years for Spring Training and see tent encampments under the overpasses. We stayed downtown one time and I was stunned to see armed guards in a CVS like pharmacy and in a grocery store a few miles away. The ballparks though are generally better areas and you don't see that kind of stuff. Never had any of that in areas like Scottsdale either.

Post: Why do people Buy Property in California

Chris Wilson
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  • Coupeville, WA
  • Posts 88
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Quote from @James Hamling:
Quote from @Chris Wilson:
Quote from @James Hamling:
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

Well, no one else has mentioned it, so I will......what about the current LA fires and the ongoing mis-managment of the forest and brush? A lot of people in the current fire area had their insurance canceled lately and are really screwed, Reminds me of Florida and the insurance problem caused by the hurricanes.


also thing of the Lahina fire on Maui there was no forest there freak down slope winds and buildings that were built with very dry timber with no fire protection in mind.. this stuff happens.

If were gonna use fires as a measure of "good" or "bad" than Canada is hell and most of the country should evacuate because holly-heck do they have fires galore. 

Fact is our human spawl has gotten to a point that we build in volume in places that are catastrophe prone. For some reason we human love to try fighting nature, thinking we can "tame" it, despite failing a whole lot at it. 

We decided hurricane lane FL was a great place to build metropolis and than cry every time it's damaged. We build in fire cycle prone areas and lament when a fire happens. 

Not to mention our building standards remain for most part that of colonial times, why, who knows, we just don't like to embrace brick block and cement for some reason and prefer sticks still. 

Hell, even the Amish look at our construction methods and chuckle.


 Take a look at the CA building codes including for earthquakes and local cities can have their own as well. I mean it's CA for heaven sake :)   By the way our most recent couch purchase was a lovely piece of furniture built by the Amish. https://ssc.ca.gov/forms_pubs/hog/


Are you saying the earthquake stuff is the reasoning for the timber construction vs masonry? 

But look at the commercial structures, there masonry are they not. 

I actually do a fair bit of commerce with the Amish on a somewhat regular basis. Everything they do is quality. But they are savvy business people too, some of the best negotiators I've ever meet. At least the Amish here. 


 No that is not what I am saying. It was more generally targeted at the comment about building standards. CA has those up the Wazoo for things like earthquakes and fire prevention for examples. Builders for a long time avoided building brick structures in areas of CA because of earthquakes and opted for more resilient to shaking materials like wood. A bend don't break approach that is still favored across a variety of materials used including steel reenforced masonry. It's more about saving life's than buildings in general. If your house breaks you can fix it, if you get crushed your house doesn't matter as much anymore.

We still very much love our Smith Brothers couch and you could be right about the Amish being good business people because it sure wasn't cheap :)