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All Forum Posts by: Chris Williams

Chris Williams has started 8 posts and replied 91 times.

Post: Doing Real Estate out of the US

Chris WilliamsPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Atlanta GA
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 38
Quote from @Katie Holmes:

Jealous you're off to New Zealand! How amazing! I try to automate as much as you can so you don't have to worry about time zones, etc. Best of luck!


 Yea time zones is something I have thought about. I am not 100% on NZ I am also looking at Iceland, Norway, Switzerland and Australia. I am thinking it wouldn't be that much different than being out of state outside of the time zones. I live in Missouri and work in the ATL market. 

Post: Doing Real Estate out of the US

Chris WilliamsPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Atlanta GA
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 38
Quote from @Kerry Baird:

We were military and stationed in Europe for many years.  It seems to me that your favorite title company would be the best resource for solving a lot of your closing processes.  So much can be automated, as you know. 

I'm going to put a word in for living abroad...and I can't think of a more beautiful place than NZ.  I thought that I could wholesale while in England, but the banks hold the deeds, so I couldn't do sub2, which was my bread-and-butter for a season.  Money was expensive over there and at the time, I didn't know how to get hard money to do rehabs.  So I ended up finding houses to buy near bases in the US, and settled on doing LTRs in Texas.  


 Yea I wouldn't be doing real esate in that other country my business would be based in America. I am not interested in learning the laws and contracts for wholesaling in another country. 

Post: Doing Real Estate out of the US

Chris WilliamsPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Atlanta GA
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 38

I am considering moving to New Zealand in the next 2 years to live permanently, but I do real esate wholesaling in the ATL market. I have some ideas on how I could do this from the other side of the world, but I would be curious in some other best practices for those who have done real estate from a substantial distance. For context haha Auckland NZ is 8,100 miles away from ATL. Thanks in advance. 

Post: New to Wholesaling in Atlanta – Looking for Guidance & Connections

Chris WilliamsPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Atlanta GA
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 38
Quote from @Michael Dumler:

@Cameron Chambliss, primarily focus on creating a system for connecting with property owners and sourcing deals rather than establishing your end buyer list. You can do both simultaneously, but the former is much more challenging than the latter. If you have a quality deal under contract, souring an end buyer is not as difficult as you may think. There is a plethora of investors and flippers in metro Atlanta who are hungry for a good deal. Research and familiarize yourself with PropStream. The platform is widely used amongst wholesalers to source deals.

 I agree. I use cash comps as the first people I look to sell wholesale deals to. 

Post: New to Wholesaling in Atlanta – Looking for Guidance & Connections

Chris WilliamsPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Atlanta GA
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 38
Quote from @Chaz Jenkins:

Welcome! My primary experience recently w/ Atlanta wholesalers has been mispriced properties due to the additional margin added. Just have solid comps, ARV numbers, and of course good clientele. Just put yourself in the shoes of the other side of the deal and consider what numbers would make sense for them.


 I am a wholesaler myself and yea I agree. I partner with wholesalers in the ATL market and yea the amount of trash flooding my email is wild. I get the same property sent to me multiple times and it just blows my mind. 

Post: Best Sms blast platform to use?

Chris WilliamsPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Atlanta GA
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 38
Quote from @Bryant Arria:

Currently using Batch leads which maxes me out at 1,000 texts a day, does anybody out there have a program that they recommend that is affordable and allow me to increase my volume of texts per day? 


 Are you still in the Atlanta market? 

Post: Why do Wholesalers Lie

Chris WilliamsPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Atlanta GA
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 38
Quote from @Alan Asriants:

Many wholesalers motives are to make a quick buck. They are more motivated by the payout than building a relationship. Agents are also susceptible to this, but tends to be more prevalent in the wholesaler community. My guess is that their mentors are similar, no barrier to entry, and no major organization or entity that holds them accountable for ethics. 

This is also why you will see most deals in the not so favorable areas as it is easier for them to prey upon those sellers. I've walked through a property with a wholesaler and when I walked in I told him the ceiling height here is a big factor for resale and I can't use the comps he sent me. He was surprised and when I asked him if he thought it was a big deal he told me: NOT AT ALL! Lol.

They have decent deals from time to time, but they are usually volume based, not in tune with market, and more motivated to push a sale than to really see if a deal is good or not. Take their ARVs and cost of rehab with a grain of salt. Do your own due diligence and don't believe the hype. You'll believe it when you see it. Sometimes there are good deals tho


I appreciate this post as a wholesaler myself. I tell all buyers to not trust my ARV and repairs since they have their own contractors and idea of what they think value is. I even go to my buyers for ARV sometimes. I wish more wholesalers understood wholesaling is a business and not just a fun hobby. A good wholesaler can easily make doctor money, but so many of them are just stuck on retiring on one deal. I guess it is because I grew up being a basketball player that I am willing to be coached and hear buyers out. I learned in sports that a massive ego means that you are selfish and hurt the team as a whole even if you individually shine.

Post: Why do Wholesalers Lie

Chris WilliamsPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Atlanta GA
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 38
Quote from @Bryce Langford:

Are you working with actually licensed Agents? I recommend finding ones who are licensed, experienced in house flipping themselves, don't allow JVs,  and are actually selling to end buyers instead of other wholesalers. 

There is a huge problem with unlicensed wholesalers and Joint Ventures here in San Antonio. Work with Investor friendly Real Estate Agents who are held to the TREC standards. 


 I am a wholesaler myself and my business partner are discussing getting licensed. The wholesalers in my market are kind of a joke haha. I do agree investor friendly agents can be a great place to look for flips. 

Post: Why do Wholesalers Lie

Chris WilliamsPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Atlanta GA
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 38
Quote from @Kristi K.:

I’m about ready to give up on wholesalers! I’ve wasted a lot of time going and looking at “a jewel of a deal”. Here is the latest example from yesterday

This is how they advertise it, $180,000

“If you’re looking for a great investment, with great bones and endless possibilities, this 3-bedroom, 2-bath gem in New Braunfels is it! The roof is 5-7 years old and the foundation was updated 5-7 years ago so the big stuff is already taken care of. All it needs now is a little TLC to bring it to life—think fresh paint, new fixtures, etc.

The cabinets, floors, and walls are all in good shape, so you’ve got a solid starting point. It’s the perfect opportunity for an investor hunting for a smart deal.

Located in a great area with a charming downtown, awesome local restaurants, and plenty of outdoor fun by the Guadalupe and Comal Rivers.

This is one of those homes that doesn’t come around often—a solid investment with tons of potential that won’t take much to make it shine.”

The county has it appraised at $188,000 and here are some pics.  

My question is how can someone be so far off on value and continue to keep their job? 


As a wholesaler myself I can provide some feedback. A lot of wholesalers run on a lie until they are called out on it. A big part of this is the lack of entry to get into wholesaling. A lot of it is just greed and another part of it is lack of knowledge and ego. You end up getting a wholesaler who knows little to nothing and has a massive ego which is a bad combination. The way I see it as a wholesaler is that my buyers are people who I am striving to buy one day so I pay close attention when they tell me something. My end goal with wholesaling is to eventually buy properties myself. A lot of wholesalers are in the business of short term transactional deals where they can make $10k here and then never speak to the buyer again. I understand your frustration. I work on the disposition side of wholesaling and the amount of inflated ARV's I see blows my mind. It does have a pro though I have gotten very good at comping haha. I prioritize relationships with my buyers. I send all my stuff to like 4-5 people since I trust them and their feedback. I hope that gives you some insight on the mind of a wholesaler. I am looking forward to states requires all wholesalers to get their license, so that way I can get licensed and then I don't have to try to partner and jv with non serious wholesalers anymore.

Post: New to Wholesaling in Atlanta – Looking for Guidance & Connections

Chris WilliamsPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Atlanta GA
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 38

I also work in the ATL market. I work on the disposition side of things. How new would you say are?