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All Forum Posts by: Christopher Machir

Christopher Machir has started 1 posts and replied 3 times.

Post: Scam or Golden Opportunity?

Christopher MachirPosted
  • St. Louis, MO
  • Posts 3
  • Votes 0

For context, John is also looking for investors to invest on individual properties, in which the investor would receive interest, and a cut of the sale profits. This is something I was heavily considering as well.

Post: Scam or Golden Opportunity?

Christopher MachirPosted
  • St. Louis, MO
  • Posts 3
  • Votes 0

Originally posted by @Wayne Brooks:


I could certainly be way off in my phrasing of this. To me it seemed like a logical way off offsetting the increased risk of funding a project up-front rather than in an as-you-go basis. My greatest fear here is my own naivety. I am in the process of obtaining more information on this "lender".

Originally posted by @Tom Chen:

I've never heard of this and I'll certainly be looking into it. However, the one thing I imagine would be missing is the learning opportunity. I'm not terribly afraid of risk, however I am afraid of a man taking my money and running with it. I am really looking for a learning opportunity and a partnership in which I have some degree of control over my investment. 

If I were to pursue this further, what should I be looking for, for assurance that I'm not dealing with a scam? Or is the general consensus here that this whole thing is just way too fishy to even warrant wasting the time to investigate? Please do consider that I have highly simplified the overall premise here in the interest of being quick and concise, and also because I frankly don't 100% understand the business. Hypothetically, if I did want to at least do my due diligence on this deal, what should I look out for?

Post: Scam or Golden Opportunity?

Christopher MachirPosted
  • St. Louis, MO
  • Posts 3
  • Votes 0

So I am brand spanking new to real estate and investing in general. I recently came into some money via inheritance and I had decided many months before that I want to use it for real estate investing. It's not a ton of money, but I think it's enough to get started.

Anyway, I've been chatting with old friend from high school who happens to be a RE agent. He has also been looking to get into the RE market. He recently started working with a fix and flip investor, we'll call him John and my agent friend Paul.

John started fix and flip investing back before the crash, made a lot of money, then lost most of it in the 07 crash. He's ready to get back into the business, he has the know-how, the connections, the experience. He just needs investors. That's where I come in. He says he's got a lending company willing to lend him purchase and repair costs as hard money up front for deals that meet certain criteria. However he needs $9,000 to buy in to this lending partnership. I can provide that, and if this opportunity is legitimate I really want to get in on this. Paul is really excited, he has been learning from John for over a month now but doesn't have the money to invest financially. I do. 

I met with John and Paul, John is very charismatic, highly enthusiastic about real estate, seems to have a brilliant business model. All he needs is some start up capital. I am a new investor, excited about entering this world and learning the ropes, all I need is a partner and mentor. 

A match made in heaven or a con-man from helvete? 

The question is, does this sound at all legit? Have you ever heard of a lending company you had to buy into? How do I best protect myself and verify John's legitimacy? I already trust Paul, and Paul trusts John. But I have only just met John and I feel what he is offering is too good to be true. But what do I know? I'm a complete newb to all of this!

Before I do anything, of course, my lawyer will be running a background check and going over our contract.