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All Forum Posts by: Christian Artuso

Christian Artuso has started 2 posts and replied 23 times.

Post: BRRRR on Out of State Properties?

Christian Artuso#2 BRRRR - Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat ContributorPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 12

@Drew Sygit well said and I appreciate that! Fortunately, I have found investors and contractors that are active investors and do try to see it from my perspective on how to make money in the deals but I agree with the extra opinions and "trust, but verify"

Post: BRRRR on Out of State Properties?

Christian Artuso#2 BRRRR - Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat ContributorPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 12

@Bryce Renicker Thanks for bringing this up. Unfortunately, I don't think I'll be able to take it so I'd say it's all yours but if there's anything I can do to help, let me know!

Post: BRRRR on Out of State Properties?

Christian Artuso#2 BRRRR - Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat ContributorPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 12

@Mo Li I agree. There are opportunities in any market but I would need more capital to invest in and around Chicago. Part of why I am looking at possibly investing in out of state markets.

Post: BRRRR on Out of State Properties?

Christian Artuso#2 BRRRR - Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat ContributorPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 12

@Jimmy Lieu Thanks for the insight. Always great to hear about where investors have had successful and found difficulties to get a clearer picture. Sounds like from everyone here that a strong vetting of your contractors is an ever more important part given how much the project depends on them and the rehab costs/time. Glad to hear there are opportunities in Columbus

Post: BRRRR on Out of State Properties?

Christian Artuso#2 BRRRR - Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat ContributorPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 12

@Remington Lyman Have you worked with lenders that allow only 10% down and are those simply conventional loans? I have seen at least 15% as the lowest for most commercial loans that did not include FHA loans/house hacking.

Post: BRRRR on Out of State Properties?

Christian Artuso#2 BRRRR - Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat ContributorPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 12

@Shawn Ackerman thanks for the reply. Glad to see OOS BRRR strategy has worked for you. I am familiar with the 75% of ARV less property and rehab expenses but I appreciate that that's the formula you work with too.

My biggest concern is over managing the rehab from a distance but it sounds like you have been able to mitigate that with a relationship with a reliable contractor. I will keep that in mind when I decide its a strategy I feel ready to take on.

Thanks!

Post: BRRRR on Out of State Properties?

Christian Artuso#2 BRRRR - Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat ContributorPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 12
Not discouraging at all. I would much rather hear a less than ideal truth rather than sounds too good to be true lie. I very much appreciate the advice on this. Some of the Indiana markets would be only one hour away but glad to know that would be a difficult start.

I do have an opportunity to invest in a local rehab where I would one of a few investors and not fully funding the project myself. Sounds like I should look into that opportunity more to try and see if I can learn more about project management and rehab through that opportunity.

Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Christian Artuso

yes - short answer: don't start with a long distance BRRRR.

the more hands-on you can be, the more likely your BRRRR is to be successful. no one is going to QB or PM it like you will - there is no such position as "BRRRR manager." folks have tried to cobble this together among agent, property manager and contractor, and it's always frustrating and higher risk. just to repeat myself: the buck stops with you, not with anyone else.

and, if you don't have enough capital for a BRRRR close by... you're going to have to save up more. no one wants to hear that but it's true.

i have done a few, i did one an hour away and even that was painful.

happy to answer any questions you have

not trying to be discouraging, just realistic


Post: BRRRR on Out of State Properties?

Christian Artuso#2 BRRRR - Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat ContributorPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 12

Hi BP Community,

I am sure this a strategy that some have had success with but how difficult of a strategy is it to BRRRR on out of state rentals? Additionally, would you still look for properties that need significant rehab work or more aim for properties that just need cosmetic rehabs?

I am based in Chicago but also looking at Indiana and Ohio markets since I am starting off, don't have as much capital available and those markets tend to be a bit cheaper. I also see the value of the BRRRR method in that you are able to scale at a faster pace but the idea of doing rehabs on a property that I can't visit often doesn't sound ideal. For situations like this, are there specific notes or ideas that you that you would recommend for this type of investing?

Post: New Investor - Looking to Connect!

Christian Artuso#2 BRRRR - Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat ContributorPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 12

@Eudith Vacio Hi Eudith- Thanks for reaching out. I would be happy to set up a time to discuss and learn more about those markets. Let me know the best way for me to get in touch.

Post: New Investor - Looking to Connect!

Christian Artuso#2 BRRRR - Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat ContributorPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 12
Quote from @Wale Lawal:

@Christian Artuso

Since you're based in Chicago, consider networking with local investors through meetups, real estate investment groups, or BiggerPockets forums to gain insights on the best neighborhoods and strategies. Since you've already started learning through books and podcasts, your next step should be narrowing down your investment strategy—whether it's house hacking, multifamily, or BRRRR. Connecting with experienced investors and those just starting out can help you refine your approach and take action on your first deal.

Good luck!


 Thanks Wale! I appreciate the insight and the actionable next steps. Hopefully I will have success connecting with people in Chicago and via BP.