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All Forum Posts by: Chris Tedeschi

Chris Tedeschi has started 7 posts and replied 15 times.

Quote from @Erwin Groenendijk:

@Mike Lambert have to admit that in my first reply I also had to double-think about including the property management or not. Hope you are well and congrats on your apartment in the Costa del Sol. 

@Chris Tedeschi on average you will find a higher m2 price in the Costa del Sol because there are a lot of new developments. Also in the Costa Brava going up from Barcelona this is mostly the case in the more popular towns. In the Costa Blanca and Valencian coast, the m2 prices are generally lower. 

This is how we can offer a relatively low investment entry barrier (to first try out if Spain and this area are fitting the needs, which mostly after starting it immediately does) and offer good returns.

The difference between our projects and these new developments is that with these new developments, you can buy off plan when it is almost finished or buy a completely new apartment to immediately start renting it out. You basically pay the margin of the developer. This is fine when the investment still makes sense of course.

However, what we normally try to do is keep this margin for ourselves and step in from the beginning (lower total project costs and because of that higher returns). The downside though if we can call it like that, is that it takes a year to complete the project and be able to rent it out.

Have a good weekend guys  

Thanks for that Clarification Erwin, that helps to understand a bit about the differences and different regions as well.

Thanks guys. No worries Mike, thanks for clarifying. To your point though, I think if we were planning to reside in Malaga after June, we'd do it ourselves. (We'd absolutely love to stay, however my work contract is up and I'd need to find another job here to stay. Such is life.)

Welp, it is slowly looking like this is falling through. (not 100% positive on this yet) We were planning to buy the property with cash, and come back and get a mortgage, but we've got some unusual income sources here in my family, plus I'm not considered a tax resident until after the house purchase, PLUS we just had that 50 basis point jump in interest here (https://apnews.com/article/ecb...) and so the banks here are making it difficult. A 15-20 yr mortgage, needing to put investment money in Spain... all strange to us, but I suppose probably not unusual to those who have been doing it here awhile.

I'll keep ya'll updated.

Sorry, I couldn't think of a better title >_<

So, here's the question: If you have own a property which you moved into an LLC AND you have a property manager, managing said property, how should payment of his services work?

So, before our home was in an LLC, all rent went to the property manager, he sent it to us and removed his fee from it and any additional items (lawn care costs, HVAC repairman, etc...)

Now that it's in an LLC, does the rent he collects need to come to us completely first and we pay him for his services from our bank account?

To me, its an accounting question and I'm not sure if legally it all needs to come into our account and then be paid back out or not.

Can someone give me an education on this please.

Thanks,
Chris
 

Quote from @Erwin Groenendijk:

Hi @Chris Tedeschi,

Nice and congrats on finding the project.

The 5% CoC return seems a bit low to me. We are doing multiple projects like this in Valencia where we are hitting 15% quite easily.

It all depends on the price of the project in the end. 

Could you explain more about the numbers, location, project, etc?


 So, I'm looking at Mijas Pueblo, 370K euros, 30% down, about 20-30k rehab. Loans looking to be a 25yr fixed at 4% and as I look at property managers, they're all saying about 70k at full 52week booking, but I'm not expecting a full 52week, so I averaged it at about 34 weeks. Seeing what I can make throughout the different seasons, I'm looking at around $4k per month and $3.3k in expenses (between loan and 25% management fees, and odds and ends)

It's about 20 min from the beach, in a mountain town overlooking the Med, but is definitely more of a retreat. 4 beds, 3 baths, beautiful terrace with a hot tub you can soak in while staring at the Med.

Quote from @Mike Lambert:

@Chris Tedeschi

I'm just back from the beautiful Costa del Sol where we bought and a CoC of 5% is super low. We're looking at several times that. I'm not sure how you could possibly make so little given what I've seen there.

 :)

Erwin,

First and foremost, this is great to see and hear. Would you be open to a conversation about it?

We reside in Malaga, its a Mijas Pueblo house. Price is 370K, I could explain in more detail what we are looking at for potential revenue generation and expenses.

Let me know.

Thanks,
Chris


Quote from @Erwin Groenendijk:

Hi @Chris Tedeschi,

Nice and congrats on finding the project.

The 5% CoC return seems a bit low to me. We are doing multiple projects like this in Valencia where we are hitting 15% quite easily.

It all depends on the price of the project in the end. 

Could you explain more about the numbers, location, project, etc?


Oh… and we live in Spain, nearby

Good afternoon everyone,

Put in a reservation deposit for a property that will be an STR in Spain for us. Its our first STR and I think we're nervous about it. (which shouldnt be a surprise for a first-time buyer of an STR)

After running the numbers, we're looking at a 5% CoC return (or about 550 euros / month) after all is said and done.

I'm curious if that seems low for an STR and should we be shooting for something that either brings in a higher $$ amount or better CoC return.

What do ya’ll shoot for? Any help would be welcome.

Thanks,
Chris




@Bjorn Ahlblad Thank you for your response. Two more questions: 1. Since this property was one of the assets considered when we had applied for another mortgage loan, will that no longer be the case because it’s no longer personally owned by us? 2. Should we ever decide to say, “hey, I want the house back in our personal names” what are some of the complications of this? Thanks everyone!

Hey everyone,

I have one multi-fam rental that I am planning to move out of my name and over to an LLC. Does anyone have some pros and cons to doing this? I know some of the pros, which is why I'm doing it, but I'm thinking that I will now no longer have any ability to utilize any equity in that home after this, is that correct?

Any help here would be great!


Thanks in advance,
Chris