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All Forum Posts by: Chrissy Smyth

Chrissy Smyth has started 3 posts and replied 9 times.

Quote from @Michele Fischer:

These requirements are solid, keep them:

  • Application: Everyone aged 18 or older must complete an application.
  • Screening: Includes income verification and rental history verification.
  • Eviction History: No prior evictions are permitted.

Requirements to consider:

  • Background and Credit Check: A clear background and credit check is required. Think hard about your criminal background criteria. First, it may be discriminatory. Second, people with criminal records are in need of housing and have made great tenants for us. We look at how many counts and how long ago. We also disallow Level 1 sex offenders to the extent we are legally allowed to.
  • Income: Verified monthly income must be at least three times the rent (minimum $4,200 combined). Our sweet spot for our depressed are is rent 28%-31% of income. Rent cannot be more than 50% of income, 59% if it is non-taxable income.
  • Credit Score: A credit score of 650 or higher is required. We do not use the credit score, we use the information on the credit report to gauge how long they have lived at addresses and what kind of judgements they have. Of course they are going to have bad credit or they would be looking in a better area.

Another thing you may want to consider to drive more applications is to not charge the application fee. We have never collected that and it is not a significant cost.

Also be very careful changing criteria mid stream, I would only change it between vacancies.  Someone could claim you discriminated if you rejected them or implied you woudl then do something different for someone else.

Hope this helps.

Thanks Michelle- what do you use or screening then? Also- I sent you a message! 

Hi All! 

I have a rental in a somewhat depressed area of North Florida. The biggest employer shut down about a year ago and 3  hurricanes (2 major) hit directly in the last year. When I listed this property last yeear I had it rented in about 5 days. This will be my second time its listed and so far I've gotten quite a few people interested in applying and only 2 that actually have so far. Both lost their homes because of the shuricanes and went into having credit issues because of this. I am working on these to see if theres is any way to approve them but I am wondering if my minimum requirements are too high for this area or if I should stick with it. What I currently have is: 

  • Application: Everyone aged 18 or older must complete an application.
  • Screening: Includes income verification and rental history verification.
  • Background and Credit Check: A clear background and credit check is required. A $45 application fee will apply.
  • Income: Verified monthly income must be at least three times the rent (minimum $4,200 combined).
  • Credit Score: A credit score of 650 or higher is required.
  • Eviction History: No prior evictions are permitted.

Should I lower it to a credit score of 600 and 2.5 times the rent? Should I wait it out? Financially I do not need to have it rented tomorrow, I can wait a bit. This is the first home that I am landlording and the first tenant was amazing, I was sad to see her leave but happy because of the reason she left was a good one.

I am looking for advice from you seasoned pros! 

Hi Everyone,

I have a rental property in a somewhat depressed area of North Florida. The biggest employer in the region shut down about a year ago, and over the past year, the area was directly hit by three hurricanes (two of them major). 

When I listed this property last year, it was rented within about five days. This is the second time I’ve listed it, and while there’s been interest, only two people have completed applications so far. Its only bene on the market for less than a week. Both applicants lost their homes due to the hurricanes, which led to credit challenges. I’m reviewing their applications to see if there’s any way to approve them but its unlikely if I stick to my minimum requirements. I understand the one time event thing but I foresee potential issues with each applicant because of what's happened to them in the past year. I’m also starting to wonder if my minimum requirements are too high for this area or if I should stick to them.

Here’s what I currently require:

  • Application: Everyone 18 or older must complete an application.
  • Screening: Includes income and rental history verification.
  • Background & Credit Check: Clear background and credit check required ($45 application fee).
  • Income: Monthly income must be at least three times the rent (minimum $4,200 combined).
  • Credit Score: Minimum credit score of 650.
  • Eviction History: No prior evictions allowed.

I’m considering adjusting these to a credit score of 600 and income of 2.5 times the rent. Financially, I’m not in a position where I need to rent it out immediately—I can afford to wait a bit if needed.

This is my first time as a landlord, and I was lucky with my first tenant, who was fantastic. Her leaving was bittersweet, as it was for a great personal opportunity for her.

I’d love advice from you seasoned landlords:

  • Should I lower the requirements in light of the area’s circumstances, or wait it out?
  • Have you had success working with tenants with credit issues under similar conditions?

Thanks in advance for your insights!

I am in North Central Florida and am looking to do a cash out refi on an investment property that I acquired back in December. Any recommendations on mortgage brokers, banks etc? 

Thanks!

Post: How do I get my money out?

Chrissy SmythPosted
  • Investor
  • Mayo, FL
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 6

Thanks everyone!!!

Post: How do I get my money out?

Chrissy SmythPosted
  • Investor
  • Mayo, FL
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 6
Quote from @Glen Wiley:
Quote from @Chrissy Smyth:
Quote from @Glen Wiley:

Cash out refinance is the answer. You will be unhappy with interest expense but the way to address that is to look at total portfolio performance NOT individual properties. When you factor in all of your properties (including the prospective new purchases) you want you return on investment to exceed the current return. This target is easier to reach than you think in this scenario.


 Can you walk me though this with an example? ;) 


I keep a spreadsheet with the amortization of each property and projected rents over the life of the loan using formulas for annual increases in insurance, property tax, operating expenses like maintenance, market value through appreciation and rent. This gives me a picture of my portfolio at any point in the future - it will be inaccurate but good enough to help inform future outcomes. You should have this already, without it you really don't understand the future returns of your properties - make the workbook regardless of what you do.

A separate sheet for each house shows amortization of a cash out refinance with the same details. I can then plug in a start year, a projected interest rate and LTV. This tells me what the likely cash flow is likely to be.

I can then compare the performance of the existing houses post-refinance and add in a sheet for a projected purchase with the same details as the others. With that in hand I compare the total cash flow and appreciation for the entire portfolio and can see clearly whether I will be making more money post-refi.

Excel and Apple Numbers offer functions (PPMT, IPMT) to generate principal and interest for an specific payment period in the life of a loan. This is really helpful for creating amortization projections.


Did you create the spreadsheet yourself or is there a template somewhere? I am good with excel and google sheets. 

Post: How do I get my money out?

Chrissy SmythPosted
  • Investor
  • Mayo, FL
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 6
Quote from @David M.:

@Chrissy Smyth

As mentioned, your main choice is a cashout refi.

House1 doesn't seem possible right now since there isn't anything there.  You can't get a residential loan on what is basically land right now.  Will the manufactured home be attached to the ground?  I hope so to get a residential loan.

#2 looks nice as an owner-occupied loan, since a little cheaper rate

#3 if you can really support it as a summer home, then you might get it at slightly cheaper rate as well.

You could so heloc's, but need to find a good/available product.  Also, they tend to be variable rate.

You should run your numbers and see how the interest expense will pencil out not only for your next intended investment, but also how it will affect your finances and financing.

Happy to chat.  Hope these little tidbits help.  Good luck.


Thanks! 

House 1 will be attached to the ground. 

House 2- if I got an owner occupied loan will I need to stay there 12 months like a house hack or is that only for FHA? We only plan to stay there until May or June when house 1 is ready.

House 3- Even if I get only 50,000 out of it so that I don't have to worry about supporting it at a higher number then I am good with that. 

What is the best way to run my numbers? This is all new to me! 

Thanks

Post: How do I get my money out?

Chrissy SmythPosted
  • Investor
  • Mayo, FL
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 6
Quote from @Glen Wiley:

Cash out refinance is the answer. You will be unhappy with interest expense but the way to address that is to look at total portfolio performance NOT individual properties. When you factor in all of your properties (including the prospective new purchases) you want you return on investment to exceed the current return. This target is easier to reach than you think in this scenario.


 Can you walk me though this with an example? ;) 

Post: How do I get my money out?

Chrissy SmythPosted
  • Investor
  • Mayo, FL
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 6
Quote from @Jason Wray:

Chrissy,

Easy, just do a cash out refinance since you have no mortgage your LTV will be low and you will get a good rate. The rate on the cash out refinance will be much lower than a Heloc rate and since it will be based off of a 30 year amortization the payment will be much lower.

Delayed financing offers 80% LTV cash out if you have owned it for less than 6 months - But, you cannot use a new appraisal. Delayed financing uses the purchase price plus any renovation receipts and will use 80% of that number. If you owned them for 6 months or more you can use a new appraisal and get more out.


 Thanks

Can you do a cash out refi on a second home? 

Post: How do I get my money out?

Chrissy SmythPosted
  • Investor
  • Mayo, FL
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 6

Hi Everyone, I have 3 properties and all my cash is tied up in them. I am wondering what the best way to get my cash out so that I can buy more properties. I do not have mortgages on any of them. 

House 1: I purchased a lot, added electric, septic and well then purchased a manufactured home. Currently waiting on it to arrive- ETA is April. Lets say value is $200,000. This will be my primary residence for a couple years after its ready to move in. 

House 2: Investment property just purchased. We will be living in this house until house 1 is ready, then renting. Value: $130,000

House 3: My "summer home" and also my childhood home that I was able to purchase from the bank super cheap when my dad had to be moved into a home and was upside down in a reverse mortgage. Value $450,000. This house is 12 hours away from house 1 and 2. 

So all 3 were paid in cash. What is the best way to get the cash out? 

1. Not sure how this works as its a manufactured home and land was separate. 

2. Delayed financing on the investment property basically doing a brrrr on this?

3. HELOC? Is this an option for second homes?

Thanks :)