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All Forum Posts by: Chris Schwagerl

Chris Schwagerl has started 2 posts and replied 31 times.

Post: How Soon to Raise Rents?

Chris SchwagerlPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 22

Of course you want to have a heart and not be cruel, and that's why you're asking this question.

You'll figure out the answer in your heart. 

In terms of valuation, commercial properties are valued based on NOI.

If your rents are $500/month below market rate, you're leaving $$ on the table.

$500/month x 12 months = $6,000 x 8 units = $48,000.  

If cap rates are at 5%, you are de-valuing your property by $960,000.

Post: Utilities: Who pays?

Chris SchwagerlPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Jeff Rogers:

@Chris Schwagerl That's an interesting experiment. Did you survey your tenants or was it learn-by-doing?  I'm undergoing the same experiment actually. I haven't gotten direct feedback but I get the sense that tenants prefer getting charged the flat rate. Only starting to bill back utilities on the multis.


 I asked (in text so it's in writing).  

I always communicate with tenants whenever something involves them.  

Post: Utilities: Who pays?

Chris SchwagerlPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Laura Shinkle:
Quote from @Chris Schwagerl:

We use ACH payments, and that's the only way we roll these days.  It's so convenient for tenants to pay that way.

*Quick tip, we split utility costs by square footage of units.  For example, one side is 1500 sq ft and the other is 500 sq ft, the larger side will pay 3/4 of the utilities.  

We have multiple duplexes with only one meter.  I did an experiment to see which method was best:

1) Calculate the monthly utility costs and upload them to the property mgmt software - variable costs per month

2) Charge a fixed rate each month.  Last year's utility costs +10% inflation.  (Extra costs were either added to the last month's rent or given back to tenants as an overpayment refund)

*Note - properties are in Minnesota, so there's a wide range of temps throughout the year.

Which one do you think was the winner?  Well, I was wrong.

EVERY TENANT PREFERRED #2.


 Just curious the time commitment/work required on your part. Was it comparable between the two, or was one easier than the other? I would have though the second would be a pain. 


 You're right!  #2 took some up front, but then it was automated (a half hour total per property).

#1 took a half hour per month.

Post: Thoughts on Buying homes for their AirBnB value?

Chris SchwagerlPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Alan Asriants:

Hey BP, I have been talking to a lot of investors purchasing for AirBnB and even headed out west to see some new construction being valued for its AirBnB potential. Do you guys think this kind of investing (STR) is sustainable.

Couple thoughts of mine of why I think it could be volatile: 

1. Traveling is sometimes a trend. Tiktok has made it cool to go to one place one month and then another next month

2. Heard AirBnb is getting more strict with their regulations - larger companies/hotels are now listing their properties there. 

3. AirBnb is getting more expensive. Recently found that it was $200 cheaper to use Booking.com than AirBnB. The nightly cost was the same. After all the taxes and fees being charged on AirBnb it didn't make sense for a short trip. Possibly for a longer stay it could be justified. 

4. People are buying very expensive homes (1M and up) and hoping to get crazy returns - recession could impact how nice of a place people would rent. I hear lots of people who own airbnbs are getting most of their requests from 20 year olds looking to party in their mansion. 

Would love to hear what people have to say!


 Hey Alan,

Great question!

Two thoughts here:

1) I buy STRs, and one of my criteria for underwriting is that they have positive cashflow as a long-term rental as well. Play offense (STR) AND defense (LTR)

2) Regulations are either in place or aren't. If regulations aren't in place, then they're coming. And they won't be pretty. You want to do a STR in a location with pre-determined regulations so you know what to expect. Check the zoning, city regs, and county regs.

Post: Where to start?

Chris SchwagerlPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Nick Jonas:

Hi everyone! 

I'm a renter in NYC, with my partner and two dogs.  I have amassed a decent amount of savings which I have put in the stock market, but would like to consider putting between $100-150k into real estate, but I'm really not sure how and would love some guidance.  Some initial thoughts / questions:

1) I have done the STR/AirBnB game, and I know it's not for me (at least the way I did it). I bought and renovated an A-frame upstate for $400k, put in $150k, sold after a few years for $700k, but it wasn't worth the stress of making AirBnB guests happy, managing a renovation, all while having a very involved 9-5 job. If I knew a really good, dependable property manager that didn't take a hefty cut, I would be possibly interested again (companies like RedCottage in upstate NY take around 20%-25%).

2) My partner and I aren't ready to buy a house together yet, but if/when we get married in the next couple years we would want to.  If I have money sunk into a different real estate investment, does that prove to be a challenge in terms of having the capital for a downpayment on a primary residence?  

3) I'm leaning towards buying a house/condo that I can do some minor updates to, and turn into an LTR.  Some questions with this route:

- If I have a 9-5, I can see it being a real headache when things go wrong and having to deal with it immediately - is it hard to find property managers, and should I?  Or should I get to know the tradesmen in the area, so I can call them up to handle problems? 

- How do you narrow in on _where_ it should be?  I know NYC really well, but it's so expensive, so I get the feeling that $100-150k won't take me very far. I keep hearing that place doesn't matter so as long as you understand the real estate market there and can get someone you trust to manage it?  

- Between studios, 1-br, and 2-br, is there a certain one that yields more "stable" tenants?  What are the pros/cons in your experience?

Any other advice would be greatly appreciated, especially on approaches that I might not have considered!


 Hey Nick!  Great question!

When I was first starting out, I just wanted to get some momentum and a little cashflow.  Looking back, it was a mistake to be so short-sighted.  

I would ask yourself where you want to be in 5 years.  What do you want to be doing?  Do you want to own a few rentals, raise capital for bigger assets, or living off passive income?  Of course, there are other possibilities too.  You know you better than anyone on here, so I caution to give you advice.  

Your vision will point you in a direction.  Sorry bro.  You're not going to retire after your first deal.  But there's power in that.  You're learning.  We're ALL learning.  Figure out your path before you make a move. 

If you want to get into the active side, I have a course that can help you.  If you're looking for passive investing opportunities, I can help you as well. 

But then again, a lot of people can help you.  Get your vision straight, so you don't get caught up chasing deals that don't work for you.  All the best bud!

Post: How to manage if have more than 5 properties?

Chris SchwagerlPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Mary Jay:

Hi guys, I have 5 properties and I am struggling to manage them. I do have a full time job and a family but besides that, its only 5 properties. By managing I mean paying utilities when the tenant moves out, getting a new tenant in, paying mortgages , keeping track of expenses for taxes and which mortgage company sold which mortgage to who and registering on the new companies  website so I could pay the monthly mortgage...

I know a full time job does take a lot of my time. But I dont have many properties either.

How do people deal with 100-200 properties? 

May be they have bookkeepers? Or their accountants are paying mortgages for them? 

But you have to trust those people. You hear so many stories about athletes who trusted someone but those people scammed them out of their money...

I would love to expand but not sure how if I am already struggling with only 5 properties...


 I feel you on this one, Mary.  We did a 1031 exchange for all of our local homes and got into properties in a couple of Florida markets.  The freedom from property management is well worth the 8% (for 2 properties) and 10% (for 2 properties) of management fees.  

Generally, people scale by getting into multifamily properties, self-storage, or other larger assets.

Post: Trying to sell my primary to house hack

Chris SchwagerlPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Courtney Mccrear:

Good day,

Hello everyone, my name is Courtney. I'm rather new to investing in real estate. I've done 4 wholesale deals, but I want to pivot into Buy and Hold multifamily IMMEDIATELY and start house hacking. I currently want to sell my current home through a creative financing strategy so I can pull 40k-50k out of it then acquire a multifamily to move in. My home has 253k to pay off and the ARV is 360-20k in rehab. Does anyone have any suggestions?


 I like where your heads at here!  Great question.  

Something to consider - can you do a HELOC to access that equity while keeping your current primary residence and leverage those funds into a property. Just a thought. Do the math, and the math will tell you what to do.

Post: New to STR and Self Management

Chris SchwagerlPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 22

Sevierville is a KILLER market for STRs.  Well done on doing your market research!

Starting your own automations and integrations is doable, but it's a heavy lift.

I learned a TON from Tim Hubbard's Rest Methods course.  I recommend it. 

As for management platforms, Guesty is good until you get to about 5 properties.  Then Hostaway gets more competitive and easier to scale.  

Other apps you'll want are pricelabs for dynamic pricing along with a communication channel that speaks with your boots on the ground team (cleaner and maintenance).

Post: Tenants with 5 small dogs? Is it a good idea?

Chris SchwagerlPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Vicki X.:

Hello, a family applied to rent my house. They are great and have "5 Pomeranians. All shots are up to date and they are seniors."

The dogs have been living in their house (which they are selling) and things are under control.

Is it a good idea? What additional info shall I ask and what amount of pet deposit is reasonable for such a large dog family? The house is in Houston area. Thanks!


 The tenants might be fine, or maybe not. 

One definite though - the neighbors are going to HATE 5 yippers.  

And I train dogs to be therapy dogs. 

Post: Is this the best or worst time to get into real estate?

Chris SchwagerlPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Eliott Elias:

I believe this Is the greatest opportunity, not because of pricing, but because your weaknesses will be exposed. It is easy to be an investor in a bull market, this market will force many to learn the fundamentals of real estate which will serve to benefit you greatly. A great market does not teach you what a recession will. For those on the fence, get off.

I think this is the greatest time in the past 15 years to learn about real estate investing.  If you're raising capital, it's a great time to educate your investors and prospective investors.  Single family is likely going to stay consistent or maybe see a bit of a price dip (of course this is market specific).  

Last Friday, I had a tequila with Ken McElroy.  He said he's "licking his chops" right now.  

When Ken talks, I listen.