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All Forum Posts by: Chris Phillips

Chris Phillips has started 2 posts and replied 6 times.

Post: Estimated Taxes + W2 Spouse Income

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Excellent, that was the conclusion I came to, but my wife wanted me to double check. As always excellent advice on the forums, thanks again.

Post: Estimated Taxes + W2 Spouse Income

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I'm a little confused on how estimated taxes work for self employment. I was just curious if anyone else has the same scenario as me and if they pay estimated taxes through out the year or not.

Currently my wife works part time W2, they do not with hold taxes and she does real estate in her free time which is classified as self employment. I work a full time W2 and pay far more taxes than I need to which covers all of her taxes not with held and we still get a modest return.

I have read in a few places that self employment requires estimated taxes and in other places that its "optional" if you are paying in enough taxes from a W2 income. Is anyone out there paying estimated taxes even though their taxes are covered by their spouses W2 (or their own)?

Thanks!

@Elenis Camargo We are moving local so that won't be a concern. It was however the reason we didn't move south.

@Ray

@Ray Johnson We paid 173k and our estimate that we think its worth is around 215k, thats about 42k over 10 years. I'm not sure what good appreciation numbers are.

@Michael Gansberg It probably wasn't clear when I typed up the original post because I had to go to a meeting and only proof read it quickly, but the SC move was something we wanted to do once and decided not to do now that my wife is making an income with real estate in Pittsburgh. 

About your other point, its funny, I did something along those lines for myself because I told her I didn't actually want to move and that didn't go well until I explained it as 40% I would move, 60% I would not want to move if giving a hard choice. Perhaps we can try your exercise too.

@Jay Belcher You are right on all the points. When emotion is removed from the equation, it seems like all I'm doing is pulling out this investment and putting it somewhere else and I shouldn't look at it as a loss or a potential loss down the road. When I see people talk about hard money lenders, they are referring to private individuals that usually have excess cash that they want to get a ROI on correct?

I would like to thank everyone for their input. I can't possibly see the numbers ever coming close to working out to rent and instead, I should cash out of the property and reinvest it in a new home for the family as long as I save enough room to still pursue BRRRR.

Ray I had my wife run the numbers on the refi to see if it makes sense after your post and it doesn't appear so. The payment would be around 1k month and I don't expect to really be able to rent it for more than 1100-1200, there isn't enough room for repair/maintenance and cash flow, so that can be taken off the table.

Thank You!

I'm starting to think after talking with my wife most of the day that this may be the way to look at it. Our starter home was an investment that we are going to cash out on now to make the next move. I would love to hear others opinions though.

My biggest fear is throwing away that 10 year investment instead of keeping some patience and the bigger picture in mind.

I skipped the introduction post, sorry, I will make one I swear!

As the subject says, I'm at a fork in the road in my life and need some opinions and different perspective before I make a course change. Each path leads to the same end goal and that is to be financially free and I feel I can truly accomplish this either way but I really need outside perspective before I make that decision. To be honest, this decision could be lopsided due to "Happy Wife, Happy Life" but we will see.

Just a quick background, I work a 9-5 job with flexible hours and work from home policy (usually in the office most days though) and maintain a stable income. I have some minor debt to resolve this year, 10k in HELOC, 10K in CC. I live in the Pittsburgh area and currently own our home and have 20 years left on the mortgage, interest rate is 3.75%, payment 1250 which will be lower due just removing PMI ( 650ish in principal, 350ish in property taxes).

I'm mostly interested in the BRRRR strategy and I should note my wife is a real estate agent for the last 2 years. The end goal is to be financially free and move in to a community that my wife enjoys working in and travels to a lot, the question is in what order. I am the sole provider for the house but each year, my wife's real estate is stronger and stronger and would be factored in a year or 2 down the road.

Path 1 - Start now, move later.

The idea here is to pay off the CC in the next 6 months (the cards aren't being used and I put 2k/mo on them, they are 0% apr for 10 months) and I'm saving around 500/mo for a down payment on a lower end distressed property. The idea here is to find our first BRRRR now and get started on a property under 60k. The rehab would require the use of some CC debt though (possibly HELOC), so it would hit the bottom line but frankly I'm more concerned with experience and hit the ground running than netting 15k on the deal. Obviously the goal is not to lose money and to do our due diligence every step of the way and treat it as a profit deal.

After 6 months I would have a greater personal cash flow income due to the CC being paid off that could be reinvested in to the BRRRR loop.

Path 2 - Happy Wife, Happy Life

My wife has wanted to move out of our home for awhile, we looked to moving as far as South Carolina where I have some family but ultimately her business here is picking up and we choose to stay up north. Before I had this real estate investment goal, my main reason on not wanting to relocate up here (where we already own) is I didn't want to start over on a mortgage payment for another 30 years and I'm happy with our home. 

In reality it was really only to be a starter home but we have been here for 10 years now and its time to rethink it. We both want more kids but we really need a bigger house to support this. So on this side of things, our house is worth a bit more and we have about 75k equity sitting in it if we sold it today (excluding all the selling fees and costs). This 75K could be used as a down payment on a FHA loan, pay off the debt and probably still allow me to have 10-20k left over to invest in my first property.

We talked about trying to rent out this property we currently have and purchase a new house but since our current home wasn't purchased intent for BRRRR the numbers don't work out unless we refi back out to 30 years and even then its a high rent item with high risk as our first property and vacancy could hit us hard.

Has anyone had to make a decision like this, does it make sense to cash in on a property I have now to build a bigger wealth faster? Or should I consider using the equity I have in the home now to help finance the first path and stay in our home for a few years until that ball is rolling. 

Thank you for your opinion in advance,

Chris P