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All Forum Posts by: Chris Kendrick

Chris Kendrick has started 32 posts and replied 191 times.

Quote from @V.G Jason:
Quote from @Chris Kendrick:
Quote from @V.G Jason:

Don't buy a property with a HELOC. You're basically using leverage against leverage. Move more carefully.

Well if your doing BRRR method, your going to get back that money anyway so don't matter, i used heloc to buy rental property but it was only a down payment for it , 
No, it does matter cause you're still leveraging against leverage. The risk is still all intact.
Risk is involved with anything you do, driving your car to work , there is risk, i guess your saying that your risking your house if something goes bad
Quote from @V.G Jason:

Don't buy a property with a HELOC. You're basically using leverage against leverage. Move more carefully.

Well if your doing BRRR method, your going to get back that money anyway so don't matter, i used heloc to buy rental property but it was only a down payment for it , 

Post: Heloc payments ,jut got it

Chris KendrickPosted
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Quote from @Brittany Minocchi:
Quote from @Chris Kendrick:

I just got my heloc setup and probably going to brrrr some cheap houses but just wondering how to calculate the payments for the heloc with a 7.49 rate, i took out 20k and my monthly payments would be 300 a month is that right, they said something about 1.5 percent of outstanding balance is adding or something 

The way a HELOC is structured varies lender to lender so your best bet is to reach out to them and find out about yours. Could be interest only, could be a % of outstanding balance, etc. 
Its interest only, i thought all heloc is intrest only
Quote from @Jason Wray:

Mike,

You have (2) options Heloc or Cash-out refinance but it’s can get tricky if you do not know how banks and underwriting works. Years ago it was smart to pull out a Heloc and use it when- ever you needed to draw from the CL. Fast forward to today now it’s not that great because you can actually take cash out through a refinance at a lower rate than a Heloc. Cash in hand is also an asset and you can purchase the home all cash.

A Heloc is nothing more than a credit card and considered a liability and "Cannot" be used as an asset or PITI/liquid reserves. Knowing this up front can make or break a new purchase during the approval process. The reason why cash out refinance may be the better choice is when you pay "All Cash" you can immediately pull 80% of the cash back out without having to wait (6) months to establish title seasoning.

I understand you may not want to have the mortgage payment but if you buy "all cash" you can put the cash back into the mortgage or into a interest bearing account to counter the rate. The whole point is to keep the cash moving and buying more properties BRRR. The whole time you are doing this you can set aside some of the cash in savings to make the payment until you need to make the next purchase.

You pull out the money, set some aside to pay the mortgage for 6 months and use the remainder to buy the house all cash for best price. Again No 6 month wait to get your cash out you pull out 80% same month and go right into another purchase to build your portfolio.

Biggest thing to remember is as you start to buy more homes the banks/lender require you to show 3-6 Months PITI in cash reserves and a HELOC will not suffice, it will hurt you since it's a DTI burden.

You have to wait 12 month seasoning period and if you pay cash for a property you can only cashout refi on the purchase price not the arv, have to wait 12 months

Post: Heloc payments ,jut got it

Chris KendrickPosted
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I just got my heloc setup and probably going to brrrr some cheap houses but just wondering how to calculate the payments for the heloc with a 7.49 rate, i took out 20k and my monthly payments would be 300 a month is that right, they said something about 1.5 percent of outstanding balance is adding or something 

Quote from @Juan Lara:

The rate is too low for starters, besides that they gave you a rate without even having a property address, and as my colleague mentioned the website is very new. There are too many red flags and it sounds too good to be true. It's a scam.

The rate without property address doesnt have a red flag for me, i know tons of lenders give me quote without a property address 
Quote from @Juan Lara:

The rate is too low for starters, besides that they gave you a rate without even having a property address, and as my colleague mentioned the website is very new. There are too many red flags and it sounds too good to be true. It's a scam.

The site been upgrade like 2 months ago, but yeah seem like a scam 
Quote from @Chris Kendrick:
Quote from @Charles Carillo:

@Chris Kendrick

I have never worked with this company but you might want to look into a couple of things. Their website is 2 months old, their company is not registered in GA, and they offer a 3% rate for 30 years. Unless the closing costs are crazy high, I don't know why they just wouldn't just purchase a 30-year US Treasury at 3.696% (risk-free). It is a better return, and much safer.

He said they been in business for over 10 years and there website been upgraded a few months ago
They said they are:

 Registered in CA and have branches in most states and the founder is Olga Krueger.

Quote from @Charles Carillo:

@Chris Kendrick

I have never worked with this company but you might want to look into a couple of things. Their website is 2 months old, their company is not registered in GA, and they offer a 3% rate for 30 years. Unless the closing costs are crazy high, I don't know why they just wouldn't just purchase a 30-year US Treasury at 3.696% (risk-free). It is a better return, and much safer.

He said they been in business for over 10 years and there website been upgraded a few months ago
Quote from @Doug Smith:

I assume that interest rate is missing a 1 in front of the three? Fannie rates for owner-occupied mortgages are in the low to mid 6%s right now. No way they are charging a 3% rate without a significant, significant buy down...that is...if they will let you buy it down that low in the first place. Rehab loans are 11%-12% with points these days. 

I hope there wouldn't be a 1 in front of 3, that would be 13%, what is normal rate for a private money lender,  they usually lower than normal rates