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All Forum Posts by: Chris Kendrick

Chris Kendrick has started 32 posts and replied 191 times.

What is everyone opinion for doing brrrr method using heloc and private money lenders, seem like heloc is better because basically i would be the private lender using my heloc, PML charges like 10 percent, i could save that 10 percent by using heloc, 

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Chris KendrickPosted
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Quote from @Stephen Dispensa:
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This is an area that maybe frustrates me the most when working with investors, especially new investors.

Do you think someone is just going to HAND you a cash flowing asset? 

Even if you have a ton of money to invest, do you understand that the cap rate is essentially the same as your cash on cash return at that point? Do you realize how low cap rates are in general across the country?

I don't care if you have infinite money to invest or are just getting started, the ONLY way to really get assets to cash flow at a level where they become sustainable income is through VALUE ADD.

Yes, that means purchasing assets that are cash flowing little, nothing, or negative.

Yes, that means investing further cash to renovate the property.

Yes, that means investing time in finding the right tenants and property managers to raise your rent roll.

However, the upside is almost always HUGE and largely predictable if you're willing to put the effort in. The question of whether you're going to succeed or fail comes back to the VALUE ADD. What VALUE do you have to ADD? Answer that question and you might find money for investment much easier to come by, and the road to cash flow a lot shorter than it looks.


 So your just crushed every new investors dream with this post,lol,  why would someone purchase a property if its not cash flowing from the start 


 Why would a seller just give you a stabilized cash flowing asset? Why wouldn't they just hold on to it for themselves?

I guess i mean like whole properties,  or foreclosures,  bank owned,  etc...

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Chris KendrickPosted
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Quote from @Stephen Dispensa:

This is an area that maybe frustrates me the most when working with investors, especially new investors.

Do you think someone is just going to HAND you a cash flowing asset? 

Even if you have a ton of money to invest, do you understand that the cap rate is essentially the same as your cash on cash return at that point? Do you realize how low cap rates are in general across the country?

I don't care if you have infinite money to invest or are just getting started, the ONLY way to really get assets to cash flow at a level where they become sustainable income is through VALUE ADD.

Yes, that means purchasing assets that are cash flowing little, nothing, or negative.

Yes, that means investing further cash to renovate the property.

Yes, that means investing time in finding the right tenants and property managers to raise your rent roll.

However, the upside is almost always HUGE and largely predictable if you're willing to put the effort in. The question of whether you're going to succeed or fail comes back to the VALUE ADD. What VALUE do you have to ADD? Answer that question and you might find money for investment much easier to come by, and the road to cash flow a lot shorter than it looks.


 So your just crushed every new investors dream with this post,lol,  why would someone purchase a property if its not cash flowing from the start 

Post: New investors alert

Chris KendrickPosted
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Quote from @Nate Marshall:
Quote from @Chris Kendrick:
Quote from @Nate Marshall:

You can. Nobody said you couldn't. But yes seller finance exists and people do get financing for 10% down. 

REI is guru driven and most are not as successful as they claim to be. Guru's spread falsehoods and do actual real harm to the industry and people who want to build income, assets and wealth.


 Woukd like to see where you can get 10 percent down


 I have a database of over 1,000 lenders and most will do that.


 So just really shop around online and see what they can do?

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Chris KendrickPosted
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Quote from @Mark Munson:
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Hi @Chris Kendrick

     I own a brokerage and am a lender, so you are hearing it from a bank. We have originated millions in loans over a decade, all investment loans. You are asking the worst resources those questions, then relying upon their "expertise". 

Can you explain to me why you'd consult a real estate agent or traditional bank about seller-financing? Agents aren't investors. Nor are they lenders and nor are the lenders you are speaking to non-owner occupied investment lenders. And the entry barrier to become an agent is laughable in some states, it doesn't teach them how to be an investor. It certainly doesn't teach them creative financing. You stating no such thing as 0 percent down is comical. Somehow you have the ability to negate numerous transactions and examples from investors across the country? What experience grants you that ability to declare that? Have you done a seller carry-back? Do you know what a silent second is? Have you done sub-to? Have you assumed a mortgage? How many novation agreements have you done? Have you sold a creative deal by doing a wrap? Have all the resources you've declared authorities done those things? Can they define those things without referencing Google? Can you define those things without having to Google after reading my post? I know the answer to these questions and I know you aren't remotely well-versed on these as the BP community is in its entirety. I'm not trying to be combative, I want you to expand your mindset and be open, otherwise you have failed REI before you even got started. I wish you the best of luck.

The realtors i talk to are investors themselves,  and seller financing is hard to find, and I would like to see what mortgage will do 0 down,  unless some random small company off the internet maybe, you cant get 0 down or little down nowhere, even hard money loans you cants, so please show me,

There are national HM lenders that do 100% financing, but they only do them to experienced investors (5+ exits in 24 months and 720+ credit). DM me and I'll tell you a few, as I won't post here to avoid solicitation rules on these forums. They also do them for members of certain groups or franchises. These aren't small companies by any means, one is one of the largest HMLs out there. You also stated, "seller financing is hard to find", so I'm assuming you now agree that it isn't impossible, it's just that you find it difficult to source them. Well of course it is, REI isn't a get rich quick and easy scheme. You either have one of two problems in REI, you either have a lead problem (which you do if you don't know how to source creative or off-market deals and you are reliant upon agents) or you have a conversion problem, which most people do if they don't have a systematized process for negotiating and making cash/creative offers. I strongly encourage you to join your local REIA and sit through every speaker over the course of a year, you will have your mind opened to numerous avenues that are real and replicable.


 I always knew seller financing can be done, but rare for new investors,  and you said that 100 percent financing for experience investors,  well this whole article is about new and starting out investment properties investors,  so why would you say that, can someone like me get 100 financing with no experience 

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Chris KendrickPosted
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Quote from @Nate Marshall:

You can. Nobody said you couldn't. But yes seller finance exists and people do get financing for 10% down. 

REI is guru driven and most are not as successful as they claim to be. Guru's spread falsehoods and do actual real harm to the industry and people who want to build income, assets and wealth.


 Woukd like to see where you can get 10 percent down

Post: New investors alert

Chris KendrickPosted
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Quote from @Nate Marshall:
Quote from @Chris Kendrick:

Ok so for first time new investors, i went to multiple of banks and there is no such thing as no money down or 3 or 5 percent low down payments, its normal 20 or 25 percent down, so only way i see to profit from rental or investment properties is either flip or do the brrrr method , cause you cant put a down payment of 20k,30k or 40 or 50k, cause it will take you forever to get that money back if your only cash flowing around $300 or $400 a month, you cant buy a property every 7 or 10 years doing the conventional method of buying a house, so you almost got to rehab the house and either flip or get it appraised for more and cash refi to get your money back and rent it out, i dont know how everyone making money, please dont say seller finace, cause that dont exist

The term "hard money" is no longer in our vocabulary. It is all private money whether from main street or wall street. Yes it exists. 

 It exists but only for those who learn the strategy behind and have the front and back office systems and processes. Also, stop going to banks. Connect with private lenders. I have a database of over 1,000 of them. 

Why cant i myself be the private money lender by using my heloc,  like i said if you do the brrrr method right your going to get most if not all money back, PML they charge like 10 percent , for 100k i have to give them back 10k, heloc i keep that 10k, 

Post: New investors alert

Chris KendrickPosted
  • Posts 191
  • Votes 21
Quote from @Nate Marshall:
Quote from @Chris Kendrick:

Ok so for first time new investors, i went to multiple of banks and there is no such thing as no money down or 3 or 5 percent low down payments, its normal 20 or 25 percent down, so only way i see to profit from rental or investment properties is either flip or do the brrrr method , cause you cant put a down payment of 20k,30k or 40 or 50k, cause it will take you forever to get that money back if your only cash flowing around $300 or $400 a month, you cant buy a property every 7 or 10 years doing the conventional method of buying a house, so you almost got to rehab the house and either flip or get it appraised for more and cash refi to get your money back and rent it out, i dont know how everyone making money, please dont say seller finace, cause that dont exist


 It exists but only for those who learn the strategy behind and have the front and back office systems and processes. Also, stop going to banks. Connect with private lenders. I have a database of over 1,000 of them. 

Well I know about private lenders,  but know any rich people to lend me money lol, you think private lender is better than hard money loan or heloc to pay of property,  even though you would be getting that money back to pay off your loans

Post: New investors alert

Chris KendrickPosted
  • Posts 191
  • Votes 21
Quote from @Mark Munson:

Hi @Chris Kendrick

     I own a brokerage and am a lender, so you are hearing it from a bank. We have originated millions in loans over a decade, all investment loans. You are asking the worst resources those questions, then relying upon their "expertise". 

Can you explain to me why you'd consult a real estate agent or traditional bank about seller-financing? Agents aren't investors. Nor are they lenders and nor are the lenders you are speaking to non-owner occupied investment lenders. And the entry barrier to become an agent is laughable in some states, it doesn't teach them how to be an investor. It certainly doesn't teach them creative financing. You stating no such thing as 0 percent down is comical. Somehow you have the ability to negate numerous transactions and examples from investors across the country? What experience grants you that ability to declare that? Have you done a seller carry-back? Do you know what a silent second is? Have you done sub-to? Have you assumed a mortgage? How many novation agreements have you done? Have you sold a creative deal by doing a wrap? Have all the resources you've declared authorities done those things? Can they define those things without referencing Google? Can you define those things without having to Google after reading my post? I know the answer to these questions and I know you aren't remotely well-versed on these as the BP community is in its entirety. I'm not trying to be combative, I want you to expand your mindset and be open, otherwise you have failed REI before you even got started. I wish you the best of luck.

The realtors i talk to are investors themselves,  and seller financing is hard to find, and I would like to see what mortgage will do 0 down,  unless some random small company off the internet maybe, you cant get 0 down or little down nowhere, even hard money loans you cants, so please show me,

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Chris KendrickPosted
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Quote from @Steve Vaughan:
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 Yes easier for multi-family property for seller financing but small single family is alot harder, cause no wants to do that, 

Right- as I just said. Not many want to do that, ergo, waste of time. 
I have purchased 3 single-families with SF, but they were rentals. 3 houses vs 3 dozen plexes.   
We need to match our strategy to asset types.  If you're stuck on houses, your creative options will be limited. 

 Stuck on houses cause just started not much money, thats whole point of all my posts