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All Forum Posts by: Chris Keil

Chris Keil has started 1 posts and replied 16 times.

Post: Mobile Home Park- Gap Funding NEEEEEDED...

Chris KeilPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 6
Quote from @Arjav Parikh:

I know it is a very difficult position to be in @Chris Keil.  We do syndications and run private REITs for accredited investors.  I think what @Al Lev mentioned is right on the money in terms of syndicated deal structure, waterfall distributions and backend profit split.

There are many ways to structure the deal and I am sure many folks who are much smarter than I am, may have recommended them.  I would also ask for a short term seller financing.  In mobile home park asset class, we have been very successful at that, but of course you will bring in your downpayment in most, if not all scenarios.  I haven't seen deal financial details but happy to help brainstorm, if you want to DM me.

Good luck, you will find a solution.  That's what we all investors do.

Best,
arjav


I always appreciate the opinion from other investors. I managed to work a seller financing deal with my current deal after talking with the seller more about his stressors and what would be the way he could "creatively finance the deal, if he were in my shoes", so instead of finding partners to bring $300k cash, we only need $100k cash.

Post: Finding Land Investors

Chris KeilPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 6

Personal Connections are the only way I've found good interested buyers. MeetUps, RE Events, forums where you've got a common interest. More people are looking for land then we think about, until we open our mouths and say what we are looking for. My contacts have been "friends of friends" usually, and the "Groups" on fb

Post: Mobile Home Park- Gap Funding NEEEEEDED...

Chris KeilPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 6

@Brenden Mitchum thank you. That is a great way to reframe that mindset. I'm reaching out to investor connections on FB, connectedinvestors, and personal connections as well, so great thought. And I'd agree 50% of a deal is better than 50% of nothing.

Post: Mobile Home Park- Gap Funding NEEEEEDED...

Chris KeilPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 6

@Dave Rav DMd

Post: Mobile Home Park- Gap Funding NEEEEEDED...

Chris KeilPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 6

@Brenden Mitchum exactly my plan. There are a couple of value adds, and the finacing that was found requires a down that is now missing. And after a non-refundable earnest deposit, the partner dropped out. So we need cash to close.

Post: Mobile Home Park- Gap Funding NEEEEEDED...

Chris KeilPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 6

@Mario Dattilo yes, and I feel like giving away equity in the deal is going to be the only way to get it done now.

Post: Mobile Home Park- Gap Funding NEEEEEDED...

Chris KeilPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 6

Hello everyone,

My name is Chris Keil, and I am look for $350K for GAP funding on a Mobile Home Park, that is already cash flowing in Raleigh, North Carolina. We had a partner that was going to be able to provide the funds, then had some "changes" and went MIA...I need some help to figure out how to continue to close without giving up the deal. I have $9000 already invested non-refundable in earnest, the additional $9000 for earnest escalation is due on the 31st of January.

Who may have some creative ideas, or connections that would help me keep this deal moving forward?

I am not the biggest investor and may have bit off more than I can chew this round, so I am willing to do what it takes to make this happen...(within reason, lol)

Yes, I'm under contract. There is 30 days left, the deal is supposed to close March 1st. Any thoughts or directions, or connections that anyone has in mind to keep this rolling? Do I need to give someone equity in the company?? Thanks everyone!

Post: Financing mobile home park.

Chris KeilPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 6
Do you also do Gap funding? I need $350k, non-recourse, 240mo on this 10%CAP Mobile Home Park that is 20 units.


Originally posted by @Kade Matthews:

If you’re looking for non-recourse, I’d love to walk through the deal with you! We are a broker that specializes in MHP and this seems like it could be up our alley!

Post: Financing mobile home park.

Chris KeilPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 6
Jack,

I wish you had some good ideas for GAP funding, the partner we had lined up couldn't put his money where his mouth was, and I am still under contract. So now I'm shuffling around trying to find $350K gap funding by the end of February, got any ideas?




Originally posted by @Jack Martin:

@Gene Nelson the type of lenders that will be appropriate will depend on the park itself and your qualifications as the buyer. Generally, outside of seller financing, the common types of debt available for MHPs are:

Local & Regional Banks or Credit Unions - You can find out which banks have an appetite for mobile home parks by asking the MH/RV brokers in your area, networking through other owners of parks in your area, or simply obtain list of the smaller banks in your area/region and call them to see if they have lent on parks in the past. If they have not, don't waste your time. Keep in mind a $200k loan takes the same amount of work as a $2MM loan, so you may come across some banks who like MHP's yet they may not show serious interest in really small loans.

Life Companies - Life co debt will typically have better terms than banks, but will come with tougher qualification criteria. You can access life co debt through a commercial loan broker, but take the time to find the broker who specializes in MHP debt. If the broker doesn't have a deep level of experience placing debt on mobile home parks, you could be in for a lot of brain damage and promises that are not met. Network through MHP attorneys and MH/RV park brokers or owners to find the right commercial loan broker.

Agency (Freddie/Fannie) - If the park and the buyer qualify, this will likely be the best debt, but the qualifications are even more restrictive. Just like Life co's, you can access agency debt through a commercial loan broker, so take the time to find the most experienced MHP broker.

Conduit (CMBS) - Conduit can be a little more flexible than agency or life co, particularly with respect to the park and terms. Again, you can access conduit loans through a commercial broker.

(In addition to those sources, there are a few others that are less common, such as HUD and SBA)

Your track record of experience with MHPs may have significant impact on whether a loan is considered, and whether you can negotiate the terms of the loan, so be prepared to demonstrate your experience, or the team you have built around you who has the experience.

Typically smaller deals under 50 spaces or locations that are more rural will be best suited for banks. Once you find the right banks, there will be more flexibility with respect to qualification of the deal and you as the buyer, particularly if you lack a track record.

Larger deals and locations in larger MSAs will open the door to agency, conduit, and life companies, all of which tend to come with better or more flexible terms, but with a higher degree of buyer experience and park requirements. For example, some lenders may require you already own and operate a similar asset in the same market wherein you are buying the subject property, some may require a minimum number of spaces, some will have pavement requirements. Some will have restrictions as to total occupancy and percentage of POHs, while others are more flexible. Many of these loans can be non-recourse or limited recourse, but there will likely be liquidity and net worth requirements of the borrower. Some loans will come with defeasance or yield maintenance, while others will have step down prepayment penalties.

A good loan broker who specialized in MHP debt can guide you with respect to the right choice for you as the buyer, which type of lender will be best suited for the park, where the terms will be the most favorable, and where the hurdles will likely be. Having that relationship will help you get the best terms for the deal and avoid wasting time on a loan that is low probability.

All the best,

Jack

Post: Financing mobile home park.

Chris KeilPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Dan V.:

@Chris Keil Thanks. Good luck and keep us posted on the commercial loan. How did you learn to structure the seller financing options or master lease option? Did you take a class or do you have any resources you can share? 

I wish, I debated making a video on it though! I just consumed alot of information from Frank Rolfe at (Mobile Home Park University .com), as much many chunks (nuggets) of GOLD from @Brandon Turner , Jefferson Lilly, and Jack Baczek. I also recently worked for a major bank, so that helped me get closer to understanding real estate loans and help consume all of the knowledge I could from their education platform during down time at the branch. But I've always had a passion for mortgage, and creative financing, since 2006ish, and building the understanding.

ALSO kind of a fun update, I found a park, and just signed the agreement to work with the commercial real estate agent, and will sign the contract in the morning, then start my due diligence packet!

As far as financing, I made some connections through F B and we'll see if they're ready when it's time to bring their equity, but they both seem like faithful people and I trust them. I'm calling about 22ish local/regional banks in the area for the commercial loan in the morning as well. So wish me luck!