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All Forum Posts by: Chris Farinella

Chris Farinella has started 4 posts and replied 17 times.

Post: Investing in Long Island NY

Chris FarinellaPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Suzanne Player:

Hi Chris

If you're right out of college, perhaps you are ok with living at home for awhile & buying an investment property before you move out?  

If you are looking to move out, there are still coops on Long Island for under $200k, you could consider buying a 2 bedroom & rent out the 2nd bedroom to someone else to help pay the mortgage.

As a first time homebuyer in New York, you might qualify for a below market interest rate mortgage (they have several other programs as well) through New York's State of New York Mortgage Agency - a/k/a "SONYMA" (pronounced Sunny - May):

https://hcr.ny.gov/sonyma


Great neck and Hewlett? From what I know they’re great towns. I’ll for sure check out those markets and contact you if they seem more appealing than what Islip has been looking like. By the way, I’ve been scouting meetup for the next Nassau meetup hopefully I’ll see you soon at one!

Post: Investing in Long Island NY

Chris FarinellaPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Suzanne Player:

Hi Chris

If you're right out of college, perhaps you are ok with living at home for awhile & buying an investment property before you move out?  

If you are looking to move out, there are still coops on Long Island for under $200k, you could consider buying a 2 bedroom & rent out the 2nd bedroom to someone else to help pay the mortgage.

As a first time homebuyer in New York, you might qualify for a below market interest rate mortgage (they have several other programs as well) through New York's State of New York Mortgage Agency - a/k/a "SONYMA" (pronounced Sunny - May):

https://hcr.ny.gov/sonyma

 Thank you Suzanne I’ve never heard of those I’ll definitely read up on them. And very funny @Fallon Gilbert I just read your recent post earlier and found it very relatable.

Post: Investing in Long Island NY

Chris FarinellaPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 3

Hello BP, I’d like to start and buy my first investment this year, but so far every method I explore is shot down somewhere in the process (usually financing) and was hoping to see some outside perspectives.

For context, I’m fresh out of college, have worked off the books until starting a Blacktop sealcoating and striping company with my brother in 2022. We did not keep a general journal, so we’ll figure out what we made once we file taxes with an account (I think. This is year one and we’re learning as we go so I’m sure some mistakes are being made)

This limits me in a few ways: 

- Qualifying mortgages (no history of reported income and as of now no reported income for 2022) Including FHA for the beginner friendly house hack (unless I can co-sign and leverage someone else's ability to qualify? I'm not sure)

- My new business is going to keep me here on Long Island (where, so far, I’ve seen fha payments and mortgage insurance disqualify every deal I’ve come across. I’ve looked for 2-4 units but it appears zoning on the island is an issue for small multi’s) Though I’m not entirely opposed to beginning investing out of state

I do have some things going for me though:

- $60,000 saved

- A $20,000 settlement coming in Nov ‘23

- The ability to save about $15,000-$20,000 per year according to a rough personal income statement

- A lot of time to travel to other states in the winter, as my business is seasonal

So what do you guys think? Co-sign with a family member for conventional or FHA? Non QM loan, Hard money bridge into an investment loan, DSCR? Long Island or Long Distance?

Thank you in advance if you actually read all of that and have some feedback!

Post: J Scott's book on rehabbing - how outdated?

Chris FarinellaPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 3

I asked this same question before reading and the answers were pretty spot on. Even before costs went up there were too many variables to rely on the books numbers entirely, but the book is great for identifying scope of work and key issues to look for when evaluating the condition of each component of the house.

Post: Determining “True” Market Rent?

Chris FarinellaPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 3

Thanks Eliott!

Post: Determining “True” Market Rent?

Chris FarinellaPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 3

Thank you for clearing that up Nathan!

Post: Determining “True” Market Rent?

Chris FarinellaPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 3

In my area, I understand it’s typical that the tenant pays for heat, air conditioning and electric while the landlord pays for water, sewer, and sanitation.

When looking at rental comps in other areas (or even my own) how can I possibly tell if rent comps are higher because the landlord pays for utilities, or lower because the tenant pays?

Is it standard practice that rent is listed assuming the utilities are paid the way I initially explained?

Post: Trouble Grasping This Concept:

Chris FarinellaPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 3
Quote from @John Clark:
Quote from @Chris Farinella:

“More valuable homes are likely to cash flow less, if at all, than lower value homes”

So why is it lower value homes generally cash flow greater than higher value homes?

Rents crowd around a price point more than selling prices do. So a $2MM house won't necessarily rent for twice what a $1MM house rents for, and won't rent for twenty times what a $100,000 house rents for. The "relative bargain" of higher rent to sale price ratios are more apt to be found at lower price points.

That said, there's more to life than cash flow. The lower value house usually needs more rehab/maintenance work, and the tenants may not be less demanding "per dollar of rent" than high income renters. Also, appreciation for the more expensive houses is usually better, since a buyer is more likely to get a turn key home, which is conducive to quick sales. Appreciation is also absolutely greater most of the time. Ten percent appreciation of $100k is $10,000. On $2MM, it's $200k.

So your carrying costs for the lower price house are relatively lower per dollar of rent, getting you to cash flow. May not be the wisest use of your money -- you can always buy cash flow -- but look for the sweet spot.
The “per dollar of rent” perspective is very useful as far as property, and especially tenant, maintenance. Thank you John!

Post: Trouble Grasping This Concept:

Chris FarinellaPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Mohammed Rahman:

Hey @Chris Farinella - great question, there are a couple of different reasons that others have provided but here's where it's at:

- you're right, with debt financing the larger the mortgage the thinner the cashflow margin (pretty self explanatory)

- even with all cash deals, if you buy a house that's $1M plus, you're not renting it out for $10k/month in rent (rent isn't correlated with property price, it's correlated with market rent for comps). 


 Thank you, Mohammed!

Post: Trouble Grasping This Concept:

Chris FarinellaPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Jon A.:

@Chris Farinella More expensive homes tend to be in wealthier areas. Wealthier areas generally have less risk. Capital flows to areas with less risk. A lot of competition amongst capital leads to lower cap rates.

To put this another way, if the home in the fancy neighborhood yielded the same rent as a percentage of purchase price as the home in a downtrodden part of town, who would buy the home in the downtrodden part of

 That makes a lot of sense especially given the input from others, thank you Jon!