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All Forum Posts by: Chris C.

Chris C. has started 6 posts and replied 18 times.

Post: Conveyance Tax Question - State of CT

Chris C.Posted
  • Developer
  • Bethel, CT
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 6

Our LLC will be purchasing a single family property next week for $200K in the State of CT. We have a buyer (under contract) with a target close date of June 15th (or sooner) to purchase the house for $125K. Since we are buying the house and the seller next week is paying related taxes is their a loop hole that can help us avoid paying a conveyance tax since the property will be flipped 3-4 weeks later? I've looked at the states conveyance tax law and can't find a grey enough area that this would fall under. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Please do not focus on the loss on the transaction (other than it impacting the conveyance tax).  This is part of a larger deal that is selling.  We purchased a 8,000sqft warehouse and the single family house is the property next door that we are picking up in the deal.  The $75K loss shifts to the warehouse that has been rezoned and approved to become 14 apartments in a TOD zone.

Post: Vacant Land Loan to Pay off Seller Financed Building Note

Chris C.Posted
  • Developer
  • Bethel, CT
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 6

Hi Ronald,

The language on the contract is that if in 3 years the properties have not yet been satisfied then the lender as the right to foreclose on the current property within 24 hours of the missed June 20, 2021 date.

With respect to the developers, they have not come back with a firm commitment which is why the lenders are unable to provide us a product to move settle the current debt with the seller financed note.  We do have value add with the approvals and the lease with the MTA for the sidewalk to increase walkability which is favorable but not enough to secure a loan as-is. 

To remove the timeframe of a 5 month deadline, I began thinking outside the box which is why I am seeking guidance on getting a vacant land loan.

Post: Vacant Land Loan to Pay off Seller Financed Building Note

Chris C.Posted
  • Developer
  • Bethel, CT
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 6

2 years ago my partner and I acquired a 9,000 sqft, two story building, zone for industrial, commercial and residential use.  The building is currently vacant and has been for 5 years.  We owe about $230K on the note.

Over this timeframe we received approvals to build 14, 1 bedroom apartments, inside.  Since this was our first venture, we do not have the liquidity to build it ourselves and are in the process of seeking help from several local developers however with COVID things are taking much longer than normal.  The current note holder has reached out to advise that he would like to have his balance settled by or before June 2021.


Outside of selling the project (which would take some time to market) is anyone aware of how we can get a loan for this property?  Could we apply to get a vacant land / lot loan?  Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Post: Building a 14 Unit Apartment: Cash Flow Proof of Concept

Chris C.Posted
  • Developer
  • Bethel, CT
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 6

In addition to these developments we are actively pursuing Smirnoff with a direct marketing campaign as this is their heritage site.

Post: Building a 14 Unit Apartment: Cash Flow Proof of Concept

Chris C.Posted
  • Developer
  • Bethel, CT
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 6

Project Update: 

It's been an exciting journey having a commercial property as our first real estate project and we can see the light at the end of the tunnel ~ We will be awarded approvals from P&Z on January 14, 2020!

Our project has evolved over the past 1 year 6 months and the final concept can be seen below.  The South Street Studios consist of 13 apartments and 1 commercial space

Post: Building a 14 Unit Apartment: Cash Flow Proof of Concept

Chris C.Posted
  • Developer
  • Bethel, CT
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 6

Thank you Justin for the feedback.  We are making some adjustments to the model.  The good news is the proof of concept is being viewed as a success.  Now we can start to build on thiss solid foundation.

Post: Building a 14 Unit Apartment: Cash Flow Proof of Concept

Chris C.Posted
  • Developer
  • Bethel, CT
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 6

Hello Jay,

Here are our answers to your questions below

Q1. Plan for expenses to rise 2-3% per year along with rent growth.

A1. The revised model now includes a 2% growth in expenses starting year 3 and compounding ever year thereafter.

Q2. How confident are you in the property taxes? If they assess at closer to your costs, at a 32.17 millage, you could be looking at a much steeper bill.

A2. We feel very confident with the current property tax assessment. (We revised some of the construction costs which now reflects in the new cash flow below). The calculation is taking the $1.64M less $75K in the developer’s fees bringing the total est. construction cost to $1,565,000.The town takes a 70% appraisal % which brings the adjusted property assessment to $1,095,500.We are then calculating the annual taxes at $35,242 (full year) using the mill rate of 3.217% (32.17 mill rate).We have been working very closely with the town officials and have a follow up meeting with the tax assessor, zoning and planning and the business development team over the next 2 weeks to reconfirm our numbers.

Q3. Plan for a minimum 95% occupancy even after stabilization. There is always going to be some turnover which will lead to at least marginal vacancy every year.

A3: The model now reflects a 95% occupancy even after stabilization with a 3% increase YOY starting year 3 and compounding thereafter.

Q4. If I were looking to invest, I would really want to see a projected expense report broken down by category (repairs, maintenance, common area utilities, snow removal, turnover, admin, planned capex).

A4: I have included a breakdown on the projected expenses.The expenses also include a sewer and water bill back to the tenants. The capex is excluded as we are including all leasehold improvements into the initial budget and do not foresee needing a phase two build out.

Q5. Make sure you account for all soft costs during construction and financing--are you going to require permits or variances to change the use to 14 units? Appraisals and 3rd party reports for your lender? Etc.

A5: Since Mike and I do not have the 20% to put down for the loan we are paying for the needed soft costs, e.g. 3rd party reports, appraisal, etc. out of pocket.

Q6. Not sure why your mortgage is only 3 months for the first year? Aren't you going to need some of the balance to purchase the lot, pay for the construction, etc? I would break it down month by month in the construction stage based on the draws you are going to require.

A6: List 17 named ‘Interest Only (est. 5 months)’ accounts for the prepaid cash to pay the interest only of the mortgage.We are estimating a 5 month construction period of which a total of $30,067 will be needed in advance.The assumption is that we will begin construction in May and complete by September.Year 1 only includes 3 months (Oct, Nov & Dec) of full mortgage payments ($96,682 annually / 12 mo. = $8,057 x 3 mo. = $24,170).We did the same calculation method to est. the year 1 (buildout year) for the taxes and expenses.

*Please note we have adjusted the build out from 6 months to 5, reflective in the revised Cash Flow shown below.

Q7. How old is the building? Any asbestos to remediate during construction?

A7: The building was built in 1924 and is 95 years old. The building has already been gutted down to the frame with no asbestos found onsite.

Q8. Stylistically on your pro forma, usually I see NOI calculated as a line, then mortgage, then cash flow rather than showing the mortgage line above expenses and taxes.

A8: Mike will provide on the next post a more formal pro forma which will be in the style that is typical/standard for this industry.This will help better demonstrate the NOI.

Post: Building a 14 Unit Apartment: Cash Flow Proof of Concept

Chris C.Posted
  • Developer
  • Bethel, CT
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 6

Hello Jay,

We are converting the building into 14 apartments. We are buying the house next door and taking it down for parking.

Post: Building a 14 Unit Apartment: Cash Flow Proof of Concept

Chris C.Posted
  • Developer
  • Bethel, CT
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 6

Hello Konstantin,

Yes, offering 1/3rd equity in the property would be an option. We are running through a number of cash provider scenarios since we do not have the 20% down payment needed to do so ourselves.

Post: Building a 14 Unit Apartment: Cash Flow Proof of Concept

Chris C.Posted
  • Developer
  • Bethel, CT
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 6

Hello Daniel,

Yes, it is. That is the old train station which is now being leased by a microbrewery. The new train station is less than a mile (in walking distance) from 77 South Street.

We are working with the town to have a sidewalk built connecting to Main Street.