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All Forum Posts by: Chris Barrett

Chris Barrett has started 2 posts and replied 5 times.

Post: Conversion of SFH into small Multi-family

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21201, 3 blocks from the University of Maryland Medical Center

Post: Conversion of SFH into small Multi-family

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Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment in Baltimore.

Purchase price: $78,000
Cash invested: $252,000

Purchased a mixed use shell here in Baltimore, split it into two units. One unit is long-term traditional, other one is long term room rental.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Numbers made sense

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Realtor, thought price was fair.

How did you finance this deal?

Cash

How did you add value to the deal?

Renovated the property and made it into a 2-unit.

What was the outcome?

Great, once it is finished.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Everything must be specific and written down when communicating to another person, especially your GC.

Post: Contractor Communication Issues

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Quote from @Douglas N.:

I agree with Jack. You are doing your part.  It is great to expect the best from people, but after a while you must realize that you just have to cut your losses and move on. I am an agent with rehab investor clients with a ton of experience.  They have contractor problems, too.

One current investor had a contractor who performed well on several projects in a row, then the quality and timeliness tailed off.  He really tried to salvage the business relationship, but all the effort was one sided.  He had to move on.  Don't beat yourself up. You got a recommendation from an active investor, inspected completed work. I would ask the guy who recommended him if the contractor is still performing well for him.  Maybe he is having problems now, too.

You've already lost time/money, don't lose any more time.

Good luck, my friend.


 Thank you so much.  I will have to do a little thinking about this.

Post: Contractor Communication Issues

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Quote from @Jack Seiden:

Sorry this is happening to you I hate hearing stories like this. Luckily the solution is pretty simple, he gets paid on a agreed upon draw schedule if the work is not done he doesn’t get paid. If the work continues to not get done fire him and move on to a different contractor. 


 Thank you for the response.  I guess a fear I have of that would be that he would bring up litigation that the contract is not yet completed (in regards to time that the contract lasts) and that I violated that time requirement (or whatever that would be called). Second fear would be that I wouldn't be able to find a contractor who is not busy that would be able to finish the work to a standard I would want at a price that I would be willing to pay.  Any thoughts?  Thank you again.

Post: Contractor Communication Issues

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Greetings,

Sorry in advance for the long post but I felt that the information was pertinent.

    I am an investor working on my second renovation.  First one went great except for timing of completion and finishing touches.  I decided to use a different contractor for this second property.  The rough-ins were great and at better pricing than other contractors but the finishings were not level, some things crooked, paint on flooring, you get the point.  When asked about fixing these excuses were given, some things were fixed and some things I personally had to fix because the fix was just as bad as the first finish.  I didn't have a contract written and signed mostly because at the beginning it was pay as we had the money.  Lesson learned: get a contract and have it signed.

This second contractor came recommended from a big-time investor local to here. Everything was great at the beginning; he had plenty of time to meet in person and talk about how they work how we would communicate, write a contract, show me his completed projects, etc. Everything seemed great, I put 1/3 down up front and work started. Demo is done, roof is done, framing is mostly completed except finishing one staircase of two and subfloor of one unit (2 unit conversion from SFH). Whenever he needs money for the first draw or for "pre-ordering materials to be used for the second phase" he's Johnny on the spot with communication and texts/emails/calls even after his supposed "I don't answer calls or texts after 5:30 so I can keep my wife happy" rule. I respect that; when I'm off, I'm off. He seems to have a hypocrital look at that hard 5:30 no contact time unless he needs the money.

 Now, at the beginning we sat down and said I expect a Monday call or email or text summing up what was going to be done that week.  This has not happened (we're almost 2 months in). I also said I expect a weekly Friday summation of what was done that week.  This also has not happened.  I have called and told him that he needs to communicate with me about the work being done so I am in the know.  We discussed and agreed that we'd call each other back by the end of the day if we couldn't answer each other's calls or texts.  This also has not been occurring.  I wrote out a long email stating points of what we discussed at the beginning about communication.  He called me later in the week to say that I haven't been going on the builder app which is what we originally were going. I said I would check it daily for updates and message him that way.

 I'm sure you could guess that he has not used that to communicate which is why I am here on BP to ask fellow investors how they would deal with the situation.  I have tried to have a sit down with him and express these concerns but he is just too busy to meet me, supposedly.

 I feel that I am being proactive in my calls, even though they are not answered, and requesting details on what's going to happen or what happened during each week.  I feel like I am not being too overbearing in my communication with him.  The last three weeks, nothing has happened at the property and I am anxious and worried that we won't finish by the time the students who I will be marketing to return to the area and are looking for housing. 

 What else should I be doing in this situation to foster a better communication between the contractor and I. What else can I do to get my point across that I would feel a lot better if our agreed upon expectations were/are met?  Do I need to call and ask if there is anything going on that I could assist them with or a problem I could help them figure out?  

For the sake of my mental health and relative sanity, please help.  I am open to suggestions or recommendations or insight on how you were able to circumvent this obstacle on the road to happy investing success.

Cheers,

  Chris

ps. once again, sorry for the long post.