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All Forum Posts by: Cher Li

Cher Li has started 1 posts and replied 15 times.

Quote from @Nerlande Joseph:

Thank you Cer

Great perspective 

Do you have an investor realtor or a team you are currently working with in Jacksonville?   

@Elenis Camargo You should definitely talk to Elenis. She and her husband Isaac started investing in JAX years ago from NY (they both grew up in Miami). They decided to move to JAX after investing there for a few years. Their company is now managing over 200+ LTRs in JAX. They have partnered with the realtor Michael Braddock (whom they personally use and recommend to others) to form the company Thirdstone Properties. I haven't pull the trigger on any property yet, but would definitely work with them when I do.

I live in northern Virginia which is part of the DC metro. It is an expensive market and very hard to cashflow. I wanted to invest in other states, like Florida, but I felt nervous about long-distance investing. Hence, I decided to search within Virginia and bought two long-term properties in Hampton Roads (one in Virginia Beach and one in Chesapeake) last year. It is a 3.5-hour drive away. I rely on a professional property manager on these tenant-occupied properties she already has been managed. But, I know if something goes wrong, I can get down there relatively easily. One year later, I now feel more comfortable with long-distance investing, and am branching out to Jacksonville. I took a trip to JAX early this month and am likely to invest there. Since you already live in FL, you have an advantage than all others like me trying to get into FL markets. This will narrow down your search quite a lot. After observing the market a bit and doing deal analyses over time, you will be able to identify deals that work for your criteria. Good luck on purchasing your first investment property!

Post: Jacksonville FL cash flow market?

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@Jag C.Are you a JWB investor? Their properties do look very nice. It also appears to be quite organized and professional based on my initial interactions. Will find out if it works for me after the demo today. 

 yes - I am a JWB investor. As someone mentioned previously, you do need to know what your buy box is and then see if FL/Jacksonville/JWB/their zip code and returns meet your criteria. As a company they are very responsive, quick (so far!) to fix anything and  out of the three I deal with, really the best. 


 Thank you so much for sharing your experience! Would love to connect with fellow investors like you if you don't mind.

Post: Jacksonville FL cash flow market?

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Quote from @Seth Young:

I have heard nothing but great things about JWB but i'm not as familiar with the Jacksonville market. However, I know companies that offer turnkey or new-build properties in midwest/southern states that are cash-flowing day one. The price points will be similar to the Jacksonville market and these markets will have indicators of population growth. If you would like to connect, feel free to reach out. Best of luck with all your investing! @Cher Li


Absolutely! Heard about REI Nation advertised on BP podcasts all the time and would love to learn more about it!

Post: Jacksonville FL cash flow market?

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Quote from @Aj Parikh:

I am also an investor from Northern Virginia and I have heard a great deal about JWB as well. Please let me know how it goes with them. Would love to connect and chat. 


Hello AJ, I'd love to connect and hear more about your experience in other markets. I haven't decided whether I should do value-add or turnkey in JAX. The JWB rep did not do a demo with me at our scheduled call. He suggested that I explore the market further and talk with him when I decide what I wan to do. Not very helpful. Although I do like JWB products, I am definitely not going to work with this rep.

Post: Jacksonville FL cash flow market?

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Jax has a "missing middle." There are nice homes and apartments, not much in the cash-flowing small-to-midsize multifamily.


There aren't many small multifamily listed on MLS. I was told that many were sold off-market.

Post: Jacksonville FL cash flow market?

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Quote from @Andrew Olmstead:

Cher,  I closed on my first turnkey with JWB in April.  I have been extremely pleased so far as it was easy to buy and I am very very happy with the property (new construction), rents and 3-year lease and positive cash flow.  I am a remote passive investor, with a great W-2 job I have no intention of leaving,  so I can be more long term oriented, it just depends on what works for you as everyone has different criteria/strategy.   JWB is vertically integrated and I like the fact that I am dealing with the same company for all aspects (purchase, financing and property management) and they are super responsive.   Their pro-formas are also very conservative as it is important to Gregg and his team to deliver pro-forma or better results he is unwavering in that if you watch his show.   


 Thank you very much for sharing your experience! 

Post: Jacksonville FL cash flow market?

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@Cher Li Jacksonville can be profitable for investors. The biggest problem is making sure you are investing within your investment box. What is good for some is not good for others. I know some investors who love to invest in low-income areas and wouldn't have it any other way. While others want to invest in only those areas that have great schools. If there is anything I can do to help let me know.   


 Thank you so much! Will send you a DM. I look forward to connecting!

Post: Jacksonville FL cash flow market?

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@Rodney Sums I haven't had taken on renovations yet. The properties I already bought were all renter-occupied, and hence my property manager just manages repairs for me from time to time. Given the supply chain issues, I would try to stay away from full renovation projects at this point. JWB is attractive in the sense that it offers turnkey and passive investments. Although I am open to a lower cash flow in exchange for the convenience, I am not willing to buy one with negative cash flows and speculate/bet on future equity growth. There are signs that the JAX market is softening as many listed properties start to lower their asking prices. 


 I hear you. If in a similar position I would compare how they are calculating cash flows compared to how you do. This would eliminate concerns of being given overly optimistic or presumptive results. 

Without making any accusations toward any entity you're dealing with, its easy for a sales person to make optimistic predictions encouraging you to buy when it's not their money at stake. 

Definitely! My concern was that the numbers from their spreadsheet already showed negative cashflow with 7.5% maintenance, 4% vacancy and nothing for CAPEX... I am curious whether it is due to the market condition that it is just hard to cash flow in this market in general. Or other investors still cash flow with off-market deals primarily.

Post: Jacksonville FL cash flow market?

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@Jag C.Are you a JWB investor? Their properties do look very nice. It also appears to be quite organized and professional based on my initial interactions. Will find out if it works for me after the demo today.