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All Forum Posts by: Chelsea Price

Chelsea Price has started 5 posts and replied 27 times.

Post: Does Size Really Matter?

Chelsea PricePosted
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Scenario: You and your significant other are traveling to a vacation destination by car and will be staying in a STR. One rental is a larger home, let's say 2:1. It allows you to spread out and really make you feel at home. Heck, you can even sleep in separate bedrooms if you get on each other's nerves! The only drawback? You have a short drive to…(nearby restaurants, museums, ski lift, beach access, or whatever).
The other rental option is the same price and decorated the same. However, it’s a 1:1. A bit more cramped but doable. You better like your significant other because there’s no escaping and you can’t bring anyone extra at the last minute because there’s not even a pullout couch.  But it’s steps away from… (listed above)!! No driving required besides getting there. 

Which is more important to you? Space or location? 

Post: I have cash but no job. What would you do?

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Quote from @Marian Huish:

How refreshing to read your post @Chelsea Price!   Congrats on living such a modest, debt-free life and for wanting to honor your grandfather by caring for your inheritance. …and how well written!  Perhaps you should be a writer!?  😉. Do you perhaps have a family member or close friend that you can partner with to help you qualify for a loan?  I.e,., someone with a good job and good credit!?   $200K is a substantial down payment that most new investors don’t have.  I would look for a turnkey rental… many condos are sitting longer on the market and there are motivated sellers out there!  While condos have monthly condo fees, those are a write-off and you’ll spend little to no money rehabbing or maintaining the property!  (Speaking from experience!). Im also in the DMV and am happy to chat and/or help you along as you seem like an admirable person!  Wishing you continued success!


 Thank you!! I sent you a PM.

Post: I have cash but no job. What would you do?

Chelsea PricePosted
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Quote from @Randall Alan:
Quote from @Chelsea Price:

Hi, folks! My husband and I live pretty humbly so we have zero debt. We own our home, our cars, etc. My husband works part time for himself and I don’t work at all. Haven’t since 2017. We’re surviving and thriving just fine by keeping our life simple.

BUT THEN WHAT HAPPENED WAS…

 I recently inherited $200k from my dear grandfather who was a mailman and worked for over half a century to save this money for me. Died at age 94! I want to honor his memory by doing the wisest thing possible with this money. Can you help me decide what to do with it? 
I'm leaning towards having a tiny house built (on a foundation, not wheels) on a wooded lot overlooking a river near a state park. Already talked to an amazing realtor and builder who could do the job within my budget. I would use and hold it as a STR. If for whatever reason it fails, I have a unique home I could sell as a profit.

BUT THEN…

Someone suggested I only use part of the money as a dp for a larger home. More bedrooms, more profit. Then if it fails, not all my money is lost if I couldn’t sell for profit. However, I’m not sure how I would get a loan for the balance of a larger home if I don’t have a job. (It’ll be my house, in my name only) 


AND NOW…     
   
I’m confused as to what to do with the money and it’s stressing me out. Can you please help me by offering suggestions that both make sense for my situation as well as honor my grandpa for all he did for me?

@Chelsea Price

I also received such a gift, and ended up here on bigger pockets 5 years ago.  My feelings at the time centered around being a fiduciary to that money.  That it was my responsibility to take care of it, make it grow, put it to good use.  

Everyone’s situation is different… mine involves children’s futures, retirement thoughts (I’m over 50) and generally speaking, for the money to not ‘go away’.

I settled on rentals, myself.  At the time I could buy $100,000 rentals for $25,000 down each.  So I started buying.  We found that C class rentals yielded the best price to income ratio (let our money go the farthest).  We started out buying duplexes because of the safety of knowing if one side went vacant the other side could pay the mortgage… but eventually figured out that was less of a worry because they were easy to fill so vacancy didn’t impact is too much.

Our goal became “income”.  Many would call it passive income… but I feel that’s a bit of an over statement as being a landlord isn’t totally passive, but will give you it is really pretty easy.  You will have to figure out what your goal is.  Being that you are here, real estate in some form seems to be attracting you,

Personally I think the tiny house idea is a bit niche. To that degree people who like it, will like it. I myself would lean more traditional. Your lack of reportable income will likely make it difficult to finance properties, unfortunately. Using financing would let you multiply your money's effectiveness by a factor of 4. I might suggest checking with a commercial lender and seeing if you could use what is called DSCR financing in your situation to stretch the power of your money by using financing. Buy one rental financed, get it up and running, then buy another the same way. If you use the same local lender I could see them getting on board with you even though you may have limited reportable income (as long as you don't blow through the money and show operational income from your rentals).

I would also suggest making your first purchase a good one in the sense of income.  So like a duplex / triplex.   That way if you only get one purchase it can yield better income for you.

5 years later we are at 25 properties with 37 doors and no longer working 8-5 full time jobs. I’m just coming off a 10 day trip taking my teenagers to see NYC and Washington DC for the first time.  Life is good!

Congratulations, and hope it helps!

Randy

Thank you @Randall Alan for sharing your experience. It was very insightful and gave me much to consider! My expenses will need to include any repairs to get an existing home to turnkey status as well as furnishing it, etc. that’s why I thought just building a small/tiny home would be cheaper for me in the long run.

Hope you enjoyed D.C.! I live 24 minutes from the White House. Crazy city. Lol

Post: I have cash but no job. What would you do?

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Hi, folks! My husband and I live pretty humbly so we have zero debt. We own our home, our cars, etc. My husband works part time for himself and I don’t work at all. Haven’t since 2017. We’re surviving and thriving just fine by keeping our life simple.

BUT THEN WHAT HAPPENED WAS…

 I recently inherited $200k from my dear grandfather who was a mailman and worked for over half a century to save this money for me. Died at age 94! I want to honor his memory by doing the wisest thing possible with this money. Can you help me decide what to do with it? 
I'm leaning towards having a tiny house built (on a foundation, not wheels) on a wooded lot overlooking a river near a state park. Already talked to an amazing realtor and builder who could do the job within my budget. I would use and hold it as a STR. If for whatever reason it fails, I have a unique home I could sell as a profit.

BUT THEN…

Someone suggested I only use part of the money as a dp for a larger home. More bedrooms, more profit. Then if it fails, not all my money is lost if I couldn’t sell for profit. However, I’m not sure how I would get a loan for the balance of a larger home if I don’t have a job. (It’ll be my house, in my name only) 


AND NOW…     
   
I’m confused as to what to do with the money and it’s stressing me out. Can you please help me by offering suggestions that both make sense for my situation as well as honor my grandpa for all he did for me?

Great input, @Mark Cruse. Thank you. No, I don’t think we know each other. I just moved here in 2017. 

Quote from @Mark Cruse:

You have been given outstanding advice thus far. I know it sounds sexy and very cool to say you have zero debt but as people mention, it can extensively be used to your advantage. I assume you study a lot of Dave Ramsey. I do understand your situation and the notion you may not qualify for a loan, still, people were explaining how carrying the debt on it may be more beneficial. All forms of REI is risky and if you sink 200k into something like that and it goes south, it sucks. Also, by giving up that degree of capital, you have to evaluate the return you get on it. If you drop 200k but you are pulling in maybe 1 percent you would be much better off with a mutual fund. Someone mentioned shady lawyers; that is also another thing you may want to consider. People love to find others with that kind of equity and sue the hell out of them with bogus or loosely liable type ambulance chasing suits. When you have little to no equity many wont bother. As a new investor I feel you are doing the right thing. Keep asking questions and evaluate everything. Take your time and dont just run with something. Currently, the buzz word is STR. Just query this site. Everyone and their Momma wants STRs. Millions of people wake up daily and declare themselves STR operators. It's a great gig but it depends on so much. Because millions of people jump in this asset class all over the place it's over saturated. It's a high failure rate as well. Open yourself up to other approaches, not just one. I do STRs in addition to many other forms of investing. It's a marathon not a sprint so you can take your time. Either way I wish you the best. This is a great place to be because no matter what you ask, someone here has or is doing it! I'm from the DMV as well!


 All very well said, Mark! And yes, I adhere to Dave Ramsey’s 7 steps all day every day. 😂👍🏾 You made many great points that I’m going to give serious thought to. Didn’t know a mutual fund could be more lucrative than tangible real estate.
Whatever path I choose, I just want the 2k to honor my grandfather. It’s only because of the sweat of his brow as a humble mailman that I inherited this money. 

Your Takoma Park neighbor,

Chelsea 

If you’re leaning towards Orlando I would investigate Cocoa Beach, the closest beach to Disney.  Many families, mine included, like to combine a Disney vacation with some beach relaxation afterwards. And laying in the sand watching rockets take off is a pretty cool experience! 

“b) I believe the OP only wants to use cash and not carry a loan. Not sure her reasoning is sound, but that's what she wants.... :-)”


Today I emailed a real estate agent with some of my investment questions. They can explain to me the pros & cons of cash vs loan. Until I hear back from them my “reasoning” is that I don’t have a job. Haven’t had one in several years. So my assumption is a bank wouldn’t loan me the balance anyway. If they did, I’m sure it would be for a crazy high interest rate and then I’d have a mortgage hanging over my head with no job and no guarantee that my rental would cover it each month plus a profit. So that’s where I’m coming from. I understand the concept of making my debt work for me but I don’t think I have that type of circumstance. A good agent can guide me if my assumptions are incorrect. 

Quote from @Lauren Kormylo:

Chelsea, just so you know, most of your hospitality to guests will be through texts, with an occasional phone call. Guests generally prefer not to meet hosts in person. I also recommend joining Facebook groups for STRs, both national Airbnb/VRBO focused, and local groups to your area. You’ll learn a lot about problems and how to handle them.  

Good advice, thank you!
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @Chelsea Price:
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @Chelsea Price:

@Bruce Woodruff Gotcha. Glad I have you good folks to help remind me that I’m running a business here. I’m sure it’s not all glitter and hearts. I have a lot to learn, and I appreciate everybody’s input! 
And as a reply to my own original post, I’ve decided to find a home locally. West Virginia is within just a 2 hr drive from me and I’ll start my search there.

We're all glad to help...

BTW - West Virginia is not what we would call local if you live in DC. :-)

 LOL! Ok, so not exactly local local but my original post did allude to within 3 hours. I think up to 3 is a reasonable day trip if I wanted to check on my property in person. 


Ah, so you mean check in as in drive by? Not do repairs, cleaning, or deal with guests that have issues? But I thought you wanted to interact with guests, no?


 A 3 hour driving radius will give me a good mix of interacting with guests ( greeting them at check-in), driving by simply to check on the condition of the house, and also having a hands off mentality. I’m just in the beginning stages of researching all this so I’m not sure exactly how it will work. But I do know I will hire cleaners, a handyman, and a contractor when big problems arise. I don’t have all the answers yet…