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All Forum Posts by: Chas Lumley

Chas Lumley has started 4 posts and replied 9 times.

Post: Recommended documents before making an offer.

Chas Lumley
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Quote from @Caleb Brown:

Getting leases is typically done once under contract, I always have verbiage that leases will be reviewed by buyer within the inspection contingency. A rider should be filled out. It will show the rent amounts, who pays utilities and expenses they know annually. For 2-4 units most owners don't keep track of all their expenses so that will be a hard one. If it's rented I would ask if the tenants are current.


 Thanks Caleb! So is the rider something I request before making an offer? That's what I requested because I was wanting to know who was in charge of paying utilities and lawn care/how much lawn care is. I feel like that's a reasonable thing to ask before making an offer because that will affect the cash flow significantly.  The sellers have not been responsive when asked to provide that information, which is why I was wondering if it's a typical practice prior to submitting an offer.

Post: Recommended documents before making an offer.

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I have an agent, but he hasn't closed on a multifamily yet. He has only done single family (non investment) properties. He doesn't really seem to know the process for investment properties. I'm asking him to gather all these docs for me (and he is) but I'm wondering if that's even the norm, or if most investors look over all that during the due diligence phase.

Post: Recommended documents before making an offer.

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Hello all,

I'm looking to make my first offer on a duplex and I'm needing help deciding what to request now vs what can wait until the due diligence period. 

Is it reasonable/expected to ask the seller to provide all their income/expense reports. Additionally, is it reasonable to request the current leases and what I believe is called the rent rider form (please correct me if that's not a real thing) prior to making an offer?

Half of me wants to gather as much information as I can before making an offer, but the other half of me wants to just make the offer so the seller knows I'm serious, then check all the leases and expenses during the due diligence phase. 

Any advice on the normal process you use prior to making an offer would be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks!

Post: Umbrella Insurance policy.

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Quote from @Greg Scott:

After owning 14 SF rentals and 4 apartment complexes totaling near 1,000 units, over 17 year period we have been sued exactly once.

We had a 350lb resident that missed the bottom step of the staircase, fell and hurt himself.  He sued claiming the stair was defective, even though we told his neighbor he just wasn't paying attention and missed the step. His lawyer even told our lawyer he had a crappy case.

I was a bit annoyed that our insurance company settled for a $70K payout.  Fortunately, he got nothing. His lawyer took 1/3 of the settlement, and he owed the hospital $90K.  Our portion out-of-pocket was the $3K deductible.


 That's a crazy lawsuit! Claiming a stair is defective is mind blowing, but I'm glad it didn't cost you very much. Thanks for sharing, it definitely makes me feel better about just having a 2 million dollar insurance coverage. 

Post: Umbrella Insurance policy.

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Quote from @Greg Scott:

Chas:

I'm not a lawyer, so cannot advise you. In my experience, you are thinking through this correctly.

I've heard lawyers say, if the loan is in your name (which it has to be for conventional) and the deed is in the LLC, you aren't treating the business as an independent entity and in a severe lawsuit, the corporate veil is pierced and the LLC can be thrown out.

I agree that one of the best defenses is to run your properties well.  If you are taking care of things, any punitive damages would zero or very small.


That's great advice! I hadn't thought about the corporate veil being pierced by having the loan in my name and the deed in the LLC. Thanks for the input!

In your experience, have you ever seen a landlord get sued? Whether it was for negligence on their part, or a freak accident? I'm curious if million dollar lawsuits are even that common that.

Post: Umbrella Insurance policy.

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Hey all,

I'm looking to make an offer on my first rental this week and was wanting to get different inputs on LLC vs Umbrella policies.

I will be using a conventional loan and I was told by my loan officer that I can not buy the property under an LLC, but I could transfer to an LLC after acquiring.

This is just a duplex, so my total number of rental units will just be 2. I own my own house and I own some land out of state, so I have assets I want protected.

I have quotes and will be purchasing an insurance policy that provides 1 million in landlord liability and I can also purchase an additional 1 million in an umbrella policy.

My question is, is it even possible, or has anyone heard of a landlord getting sued and losing over $2 million on a simple duplex? I feel like I'd have to do something crazy negligent to even possibly have a lawsuit that severe. 

All inputs are appreciated.

Thanks!

Post: Military Offutt Omaha investing

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Hey everyone, I'm stationed at Offutt and my wife and I are looking to buy several small multifamily properties (2 to 4 units). I have already used my VA loan and my wife is not interested in househacking or moving to use it again.

I'm looking for any advice or strategies for the local area (Omaha, Bellevue, Plattsmouth, Blair, Gretna and Lincoln). 

I have an agent sending me properties and I have ran the numbers on dozens of properties, but the crazy high taxes and insurance have killed every deal I've analyzed.  I'm still running the numbers on properties every day, but I was wondering if anyone had other suggestions, or tips for investing out of state into a better market. 

All feedback is appreciated. Thanks!

Post: New Invester in Omaha

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Quote from @Henry Clark:

Are you military?  E5 or higher?  Use your BAH and others BAH.  Get the biggest house you can afford and rent the other rooms out to military with BAH.

1.  Let’s say your deal analysis comes out to zero.  And you sell it for the same price.  You stay there for say two years.  You make all of the BAH payments back tax free for you.

2.  Worried about no pays or damage?  No issue.  Get their commanding officer and they will have them make it right.  

3.  Find a military friendly realtor for lower commission fees if possible.  

4.  Buy the worst house in a great neighborhood and fix up.  Find three properties and make offers on all three at once subject to.  Make good offers for you.  

5. Look at properties that you can ADU or split property off. Example 3/1 you can add a bathroom. Or double triple lot property.

6.  Look at only listing older than 3 months.  

7.  Use another realtor who will be your friend when you sale as your buyers agent.  This is free money for them.    

8.  Check out Hawaiian village, Papillion great school district, etc.  Pick a property that is special.

9.  Go to military Facebook group.  Make a post here with Military and Offutt in it. 

10. VA loan. Check with credit union. Ask them for advice on neighborhoods, realtors, or properties they may have for sale.


 Thanks for all the great advice Henry!

I love your first idea, but that won't work for my situation. I'm recently married and we are living in my house that I bought using the VA loan. I tried convincing her that we should buy a new house every 2 years with the VA loan and rent the old one, but I can't get her onboard haha.

I'll start looking at the most distressed houses in great neighborhoods. I hadn't really considered buying houses that need a lot of work because I have no experience with hiring contractors for large projects, but that might be the only way to get a cash flowing property here right now. Turn key investments are at such a high negative cash flow that I don't think it'll be a viable option. 

Do you think it's worth making offers on the turnkey properties that have been on the market over 3 months? I'd have to offer 20 to 30 percent under asking for most of the properties to work out for me. Am I wasting my time and insulting the sellers offering that low? 

thanks again for your reply!

Post: New Invester in Omaha

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Hey everyone!

I'm new to the real estate game and wanted to try out the Omaha area since I'm stationed at Offutt AFB. I was wondering if anyone had any tips or tricks for this area dealing with the insanely high property tax and insurance rates? The taxes and insurance are absolutely killing every deal I analyze. 

I'm focusing on multifamily properties, so if anyone has any tips I'd be all ears!