All Forum Posts by: Charlie Gruber
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Post: Take out Loan Options

- Rental Property Investor
- Golden, Co
- Posts 65
- Votes 11
I'm attempting to learn more about Take out Loan Options. I'm finding contradictory information when perform online research. Below are a few notes I've created. Looking for assistance filling in gaps. Thanks in advance and really appreciate the help.
-Charlie
Rate and Term
- No actual money changes hands in this case, outside of the fees associated with the loan. The size of the mortgage (or hard money) remains the same; you simply trade your current mortgage terms for newer terms with longer terms.
- Can refinance up to 75% of rehabbed appraised value
- If wait 6 months can include rehab as part of rate/term loan???
Cash Out
- The new mortgage is bigger than old loan (or hard money loan). Along with new loans terms, you’re also being advanced money – effectively taking equity out of home.
- Can refinance up to 75% of rehabbed appraised value
- Typically higher cost for “Cash-out” loan then rate/term
- ??Must wait 6 months to include rehab cost?
- Typically done after 6 months of ownership
Delayed Financing
- Source or original funds must be all your own cash.
- Can “take out” amount used to purchase the home (plus closing costs). Can’t pull additional equity out.
- Can refinance up to 75% of after rehabbed appraised value
- Renovation or improvement costs CANNOT be recouped with delayed financing. To recoup these costs with conventional financing, a borrower must wait at least 6 months after their purchase and meet all cash out refinance guidelines.
- The original purchase must be an arm’s length transaction (There may be no affiliation or relationship between the seller and the buyer of the property at time of purchase).
- The original purchase must be well documented (assets used to purchase the home must be verified), and proceeds from the refinance must be applied toward the original source of funds.
- The loan amount for the new mortgage cannot be more than what the cash the borrower used to purchase the property plus closing cost on the new mortgage.
Post: Product/Project Manager looking to work on REI software

- Rental Property Investor
- Golden, Co
- Posts 65
- Votes 11
Greetings all, I’ve been working in software project management for last 8+ years developing mobile and desktop applications for the financial industry. I’ve recently acquired a passion for Real Estate Investing and looking to transition to software development in the Real Estate space. Please let me know if aware of any opportunities. Thanks!
-Charlie
Post: Private lendor for personal house

- Rental Property Investor
- Golden, Co
- Posts 65
- Votes 11
@Matt M.thanks for your suggestion.
@Russell Brazil, let me make sure i understand you suggestion. With an escalation clause you essentially agree to pay $x dollars above next best offer. So if seller gets a cash offer of $300k you agree to pay $300 + x. A few questions:
1) How do you know the next best offer isn't just the sellers brother making a ridiculous offer to drive up price?
2) I assume you still have some contingency if total value of cash offer plus escalation gets to expensive?
Post: Private lendor for personal house

- Rental Property Investor
- Golden, Co
- Posts 65
- Votes 11
Thanks @Kevin Kroll . In your sample scenario what if buyer walked away due to inspection contingency? What is status of $20k earnest money then?
Post: Private lendor for personal house

- Rental Property Investor
- Golden, Co
- Posts 65
- Votes 11
All,
Have a friend looking to purchase personal residence in Denver area and he keeps loosing to other all cash offers even when coming in over asking. He is using a 30 year fixed. Anyone have experience using a private lender so able to offer all cash on a private residence? Thanks for help.
-Charlie
Post: Take out Loan Options (trying to understand basics)

- Rental Property Investor
- Golden, Co
- Posts 65
- Votes 11
I'm attempting to learn more about Take out Loan Options. I'm finding contradictory information when perform online research. Below are a few notes I've created. Looking for assistance filling in gaps. Thanks in advance and really appreciate the help.
-Charlie
Rate and Term
- No actual money changes hands in this case, outside of the fees associated with the loan. The size of the mortgage (or hard money) remains the same; you simply trade your current mortgage terms for newer terms with longer terms.
- Can refinance up to 75% of rehabbed appraised value
- If wait 6 months can include rehab as part of rate/term loan???
Cash Out
- The new mortgage is bigger than old loan (or hard money loan). Along with new loans terms, you’re also being advanced money – effectively taking equity out of home.
- Can refinance up to 75% of rehabbed appraised value
- Typically higher cost for “Cash-out” loan then rate/term
- ??Must wait 6 months to include rehab cost?
- Typically done after 6 months of ownership
Delayed Financing
- Source or original funds must be all your own cash.
- Can “take out” amount used to purchase the home (plus closing costs). Can’t pull additional equity out.
- Can refinance up to 75% of after rehabbed appraised value
- Renovation or improvement costs CANNOT be recouped with delayed financing. To recoup these costs with conventional financing, a borrower must wait at least 6 months after their purchase and meet all cash out refinance guidelines.
- The original purchase must be an arm’s length transaction (There may be no affiliation or relationship between the seller and the buyer of the property at time of purchase).
- The original purchase must be well documented (assets used to purchase the home must be verified), and proceeds from the refinance must be applied toward the original source of funds.
- The loan amount for the new mortgage cannot be more than what the cash the borrower used to purchase the property plus closing cost on the new mortgage.
Post: Average Days on Market data (Denver)

- Rental Property Investor
- Golden, Co
- Posts 65
- Votes 11
Thanks @Bill S., really appreciate the great advice. I'll let you know what I find out. Thanks.
-Charlie
Post: Greeting BP, future Real Estate mogul here.

- Rental Property Investor
- Golden, Co
- Posts 65
- Votes 11
Welcome Don! Getting started myself and let me know if I can help.
-Charlie
Post: Average Days on Market data (Denver)

- Rental Property Investor
- Golden, Co
- Posts 65
- Votes 11
I'm interested in data about Average Days on market for residential properties. I found site below but curious what others use for tracking Average Days on market. In particular I'd like to see historic data so I can start tracking trends and cycles.
Below site seems good but interested what others use. Thanks!
-Charlie
Post: Newbie from Denver (Golden/Arvada area)

- Rental Property Investor
- Golden, Co
- Posts 65
- Votes 11
Hello BP, I’m really grateful to have fond such a wonderful resource. I’m primarily interested in buy/hold to generate passive income but also interested in fix/flip. I found BP from the podcast on iTunes and attempting to work through all 144 episodes!
I’m attending the BP meetup happening 11/2 (link below) and excited to meet other investors face-to-face. Highly motivated to stop working for my money and have my money start working for me!
-Charlie
DENVER MEETUP - November 2nd
https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/521/topics/240108-denver-meetup---november-2nd?highlight_post=1579859&page=1#p1579859