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All Forum Posts by: Charles Smith

Charles Smith has started 6 posts and replied 18 times.

Originally posted by @Chris Soignier:

You're probably going to have a hard time raising OPM until you have a track record of successfully leading acquisitions.     For a 1st time lead, I want them to have a significant amount of their own equity in the deal.    Lenders will often look for prior experience as a key principal, esp. if you don't already have a significant net worth relative to the loan.

Finally, brokers place a lot of weight in their perception of how likely the buyer will be to close the deal.    It's a very competitive market, you're often up against institutional funds that can fund an all-cash deal.

My path is to learn as much about the business as I can as a passive, become a KP at some point, and when I get enough CF to justify quitting my day job, then I'll look at becoming a lead.    It def. won't happen overnight, but it's a big responsibility and I want to devote 100% into doing it right.    Good leads can make incredible money, bad leads can be done in one.

 Thanks,  that's some excellent info.. what's a KB/CF? 

Originally posted by @J Scott:
Originally posted by @Charles Smith:

 wouldn't lending be a little more favorable on these large deals,  based on the income and the fact the lender can see their money? 

Yup, but lenders want to put their money in the hands of guys who have a proven track record of success, not guys who are buying their first deal.  100+ units are much more complicated than just being able to do the basic analysis -- the real world issues that you'll face (management, local politics, local economic changes, cash flow forecasting, etc) aren't things you can read about...you have to experience it to understand it.

Also, it's very uncommon for lenders to put up more than 80% of the money -- they know that if the deal is good, you should be able to find the other 20%+ pretty easily, which will reduce their exposure.

 Thanks,  that makes sense. 

Originally posted by @Account Closed:

@Charles Smith It takes time, education and money.  Or some mix of the three.

I've been working in this arena for the past 10 years.  6 years on the development side and the last 4 focusing 100% of my time on large multifamily acquisitions.  

If I had family money or a really, really rich uncle I could have gotten started on my own sooner, but I'm now just at a place where I have enough of a track record, equity relationships, lender relationships and broker relationships to start going out on my own, putting together large multifamily deals as the sponsor. 

It's a little unfortunate that it all came together towards the top of the cycle, but that's something for me to deal with and figure out how to make work.

This is all a long way of saying, listen to all the other posters here who say get education and start small.

 wouldn't lending be a little more favorable on these large deals,  based on the income and the fact the lender can see their money? 

That sounds like a good plan of action.  Thanks.  That sounds like a feasible route for me to take. That's exactly what I want, is to follow the process from initial lead to closing. then I can rinse, wash, repeat. 

Originally posted by @J Scott:
Originally posted by @Charles Smith:

Thanks Paul.  I was speaking more in terms of acquisition.  What is the best way for a newbie, who doesn't have a million dollar bankroll to get into one of these deals.  I know it can be done. 

As Paul implied, the best way is to start by getting educated.  If you have no knowledge, no experience and no access to money, there is absolutely no path to success.  So, start building those -- take some training, find a mentor, get a job with a commercial firm, start finding investors, etc.

 I've gotten some education, I even know how to evaluate deals.  A mentor is what I need, but hard to find.  

Originally posted by @Paul Timmins:

@Charles Smith 

We try to get a CAP of 8%+, cash on cash 12%+, and debt coverage ratio 1.6%+

Paul

 Thanks Paul.  I was speaking more in terms of acquisition.  What is the best way for a newbie, who doesn't have a million dollar bankroll to get into one of these deals.  I know it can be done. 

I first started real estate investing to invest in apartment complexes.  My plan was always to get a few and live off the passive income forever.  I currently wholesale for my everyday living in the meantime.  This is where the multi millionaires play, and I'm ready to play.  

So to any apartment complex owners or anyone with subject matter expertise, please tell me where is a good entry point for an apartment newbie such as myself??  

Thanks!!

Post: Looking to network with Cincinnati investors

Charles SmithPosted
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 3

Looking to network with Cincinnati investors. my current strategies are wholesaling an apartment complex investing. Thanks

I have a home study course on apartment buying techniques.  Master lease, loan assumption, cashflow mortgage etc..  Has anyone acquired a building with such techniques??  Or is it more theory than anything else?

Thanks

Future apartment mogul

Post: What are your most effective direct mailing lists??

Charles SmithPosted
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Eric M.:

@Charles Smith I think 1000 names is a decent list to get started. You may not get 2-3 deals a month mailing to that amount, but hopefully close. What sort of schedule do you plan on sticking to?

 I was thinking of hitting my lists every 3 weeks.