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All Forum Posts by: Catherine R.

Catherine R. has started 1 posts and replied 15 times.

Quote from @Dustin P.:

It sucks but like others have mentioned, the property didn't close because of you. You couldn't get your lender to come to the table and close on time as per the contract. I would have done the same thing as the seller and wanted you to use a legit lender the 2nd time around. They didn't have to give you another chance

And Amerisave isn’t a legit lender? That’s my issue. I had a good bank flying through the application process to get me this house. But they refused to let me continue with Amerisave and told me to talk to their connect which took days to hear back from. Days in which I was sending every document they needed to Amerisave until I was stopped by them refusing to sign the extension. I could have had this house. They blocked the process. That seems to be what everyone is missing. 
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You are in default of the contract. No one is forcing you to use their lender. They are giving you a second chance after you defaulted to save the deal. They could simply say no extension and move on to the next buyer, which is what I would have done.

By saying the only way we will sign an extension is if you use this bank is absolutely forcing me to use their lender… 


 No it's not. You are free to walk away and should be greatful they are giving you a second opportunity. You are completely ignoring the fact that you defaulted on the contract.

I should be grateful? Your mentality is gross. Have a good one. Thanks for the input!

He is correct. You should be grateful. You screwed the sale up, not the seller. The market is hot and you were given an olive branch by the seller and their agent. I presume the reason for this, was they knew that lender would shoot them straight on you. Seller was being prudent wanting a shaky buyer to work with a lender they were familiar with. 

At the end of the day, even with that lender they wanted to use, you still lost the house so it's fairly clear here that the issue is what both lenders discovered during underwriting you, your credit, income etc. So in reality, if said seller came on here and was all upset about a buyer who dragged them along for several months without ever closing on the house, most people would understand why they have a bone to pick with you, not the other way around.

That’s not true. I was in process and in underwriting with both other banks. I’m not sure why everyone is assuming I don’t qualify. I wasn’t given an olive branch when they gave me 24 hours to get approved through an entirely new lender. We’re Ignoring the 3 extensions they didn’t sign. And my realtor didn’t tell me they didn’t sign them. So you can imagine my shock as i hear the house is on the market with my belongings inside of it. I was under the assumption I was under contract. So there’s more here than just “you don’t qualify, you wasted these peoples time” there’s issues on both ends. 
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Quote from @Michael Deering:

Sorry to hear this happened.   The industry is going to consolidate soon and these bad actors will be flushed out.  Help your fellow buyers and file complaints against the realtors and leave some bad reviews.



That’s definitely the plan once I get my hand money back. It was a sh*tshow on both sides. Learned a lot though and I won’t give up on finding a good home for my family. 
Thanks for responding!!

I think the gentleman that told you to give bad reviews did so in terrible bad taste. Look those bad reviews you give can bite you too.  The sellers can answer it and make you look foolish as well. Not only that it’s stooping pretty low.. 

I don’t plan to say anything out of pocket. Just what happened to me. I don’t plan to slander them but I do think sharing how my experience was is important for others making an important choice. 
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That would be nice....but did they do anything illegal?

And it's true that it's YOUR money and you should be able to choose YOUR lender.....but it is THEIR house and they should be able to choose also....

there are times when sellers wont accept a contract based on who the buyer is using for a lender..  I know for me on my new construction I will NOT sell to a client that is using Rocker OR Wells Fargo way to much brain drain as the builder/seller to deal with those institutions and I have that right.
Rocket is terrible and I don’t blame you! We got roped into them originally any switched to a smaller local company which was also not a good move for us. Hoping Amerisave will get the job done once we find a new property. 
Quote from @Michael Deering:

Sorry to hear this happened.   The industry is going to consolidate soon and these bad actors will be flushed out.  Help your fellow buyers and file complaints against the realtors and leave some bad reviews.



That’s definitely the plan once I get my hand money back. It was a sh*tshow on both sides. Learned a lot though and I won’t give up on finding a good home for my family. 
Thanks for responding!!
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Quote from @Catherine R.:
I just noticed this comment about the fence. No you cannot remove any improvement made to a property, Ever.

This comes up in the construction world a lot...a Contractor frames a wall/installs cabinets/ adds a new roof/etc, and then the homeowner does not pay them. Happens all the time. The Contractor can not go back in a remove the products in question.

Don't even think about doing this, it's considered theft.....you don't want to add jail time to this mess. Just learn and move on.....

 That’s what I figured. Thank you!

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That would be nice....but did they do anything illegal?

And it's true that it's YOUR money and you should be able to choose YOUR lender.....but it is THEIR house and they should be able to choose also....
I suppose not illegal but it is unethical after I read through the realtor ethics. 

I actually have another question for you. We made renovations to the house as the sellers originally offered to rent it to us until we got a loan. (That obviously didn’t happen) we ended up painting building and moving our things in. 

we obviously are going back to get all of our belongings which have been in the house for a week now that’s been on the market. 

but we also built a fence to pass the VA appraisal. We used our money/materials/labor (my husband) are we rightfully allowed to dismantle the fence? I feel like it’s in a gray area but honestly I’m mad and I don’t want people profiting off of screwing us over. 

This new information is a totally different issue. 

You should seek legal help for this. If I were you, I also wouldn't move out. If they gave you the keys, you have possession as a renter.  If they gave you keys, go in and change the locks, and live there. Make them jump through the hoops to get you out.

It was foolish of you to do repairs on a property you didn't own, but this is the first thing you have said that appears unethical on the sellers part.  If the house now has higher value due to the repairs you made, I can see why an unethical seller would pull it away from you.

Tell them you are not moving out and talk to a lawyer.  Now that you have a bargaining chip, if you play your cards right and don't make them hate you, you might actually get them to come back to the table so you can purchase the property.

They never gave us keys. They planned to rent to us let us renovate and move our things in and then stopped communicating other than to tell us it was back on the market. I realize I was trusting a relationship the seller and I built (or so I thought) lots of lessons were learned. 
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Quote from @Russell Brazil:

You are in default of the contract. No one is forcing you to use their lender. They are giving you a second chance after you defaulted to save the deal. They could simply say no extension and move on to the next buyer, which is what I would have done.

By saying the only way we will sign an extension is if you use this bank is absolutely forcing me to use their lender… 


 No it's not. You are free to walk away and should be greatful they are giving you a second opportunity. You are completely ignoring the fact that you defaulted on the contract.

I should be grateful? Your mentality is gross. Have a good one. Thanks for the input!
Quote from @Russell Brazil:

You are in default of the contract. No one is forcing you to use their lender. They are giving you a second chance after you defaulted to save the deal. They could simply say no extension and move on to the next buyer, which is what I would have done.

By saying the only way we will sign an extension is if you use this bank is absolutely forcing me to use their lender… 

Quote from @Dwayne Poster:
 It felt icky and I just don’t think that’s how it should be done.  

How should have it been done, well, if you contracted to perform, and repeatedly failed that performance, you compromise your position, if not surrender it all together. This might be a lesson, or not. Without permissions, you do not have access to the property to enjoy any of the improvements you've made. Another lesson waiting to be realized. 

To be honest, if I've read correctly, a question of ethics should be directed your way. You are entering into an agreement to purchase, without qualifying. How ethical is that?

You don’t know that I didn’t qualify. I used a sketchy bank that had me change a letter of explanation 3 times which made us look bad. This is my first time buying a house I didn’t know what to look out for. Now having gone through the process I absolutely do qualify and I’m not really sure why you’re coming at me saying I’m unethical for attempting to buy a home for my family. On top of it we were using a VA loan. So I guess you just don’t care about veterans? 

did that sound like a stretch? Cause that’s exactly how you sound accusing me of being unethical because I didn’t know if I qualified for my FIRST home. 

and not even touching on the fact that the owners allowed us to renovate their home just to sell it under the guise of promising to rent to us. But no. I’m the unethical one. Lol got it. 

and to be clear I absolutely learned a ton of lessons through this. Thanks for being concerned about my ability to learn through new experiences. Appreciate it.