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All Forum Posts by: Casey Roman

Casey Roman has started 1 posts and replied 26 times.

Post: My Cash...is Worthless.

Casey RomanPosted
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Originally posted by @Michael Slockers:

Originally posted by @Steven Ko:

@Casey Roman you need more Brandon Turner in your life. It seems like you have a lot of limiting beliefs.

I’ll bite. How many lenders have you talk too? Have you tried any smaller banks?

@Steven Ko NAILED IT. All I hear the original post saying is excuses. Every response from the original poster is "great idea, BUT". I would recommend reading the book Extreme Ownership and deciding if you want to be a real estate investor, and what kind? Congratulations for saving up that much cash, but to say it is worthless, it just blows my mind. There are so many great options already listed in the responses in this forum. No more excuses, you need to jump in with both feet, or you can only blame yourself!

I haven't been at this too long and we've done flips, rentals, private lending (as lender and lendee), traditional loans, local bank borrowing, borrowing from family, sweat equity, owner carry (owner side), new construction, wholesale, and seller finance (on buyer side). GET AFTER IT! You CAN do it! But nobody else can do it for you!

You're right...discussing everything I've tried so far (whats worked and hasn't) and asking for insight from others... is just so lazy.

Give me a break. Listing your own accomplishments to someone ASKING for perspective on different avenues is about as valuable as the lollipop the banks give me after telling me I don't qualify for a loan. 

Post: My Cash...is Worthless.

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Originally posted by @William Walker:

@Casey Roman

House was renovated in 2019 with new roof, HVAC, appliances, etc. 
long term tenant in place. 
house was never on MLS

And it’s not in a high crime pocket.

Sometimes if you put in enough time and effort you find good deals. But other people will sit back and complain about how it can’t be done till the cows come home. 

They paid for a new roof (approx. $13k?)...new appliances ($5k?)....new HVAC ($10k?)...could show cash flow and sold it for $95k with a tenant in place?

Something sounds like its really missing from that story or you robbed them blind

Post: My Cash...is Worthless.

Casey RomanPosted
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Originally posted by @Bretney Lindley:
can you tell me which highly desirable coastal area your refering to,town and state?just so i can research options...

I'm in Wilmington, NC.

Post: My Cash...is Worthless.

Casey RomanPosted
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Originally posted by @Steven Ko:

@Casey Roman you need more Brandon Turner in your life. It seems like you have a lot of limiting beliefs.

I’ll bite. How many lenders have you talk too? Have you tried any smaller banks?

My long term bank since 1996...Bank of America.

Two area banks

Three Credit Unions

Post: My Cash...is Worthless.

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Originally posted by @Nancy Wallace-Laabs:

Hi Casey - I feel your pain! I have had success with using private money lenders. These are people who have a self-directed IRA, and they are normally not earning any interest on their IRA account. It takes some networking to build your network of private money lenders, but it is a great way to buy properties if you can't go traditional routes. And you are right, lenders are being super conservative right now. Since this is based on relationships, terms are negotiable. You can also become a passive investor using your $100K. One more suggestion, look to your community lenders. I just did a cash out re-fi on one of my rentals, yes during this time, and it was easy smooth process. The bank was local to my area, made all of their decisions in house, and I just stopped by and introduced myself. Hope this helps, and good luck!

Thanks Nancy, this is the first I'm learning about a self-directed IRA. I'll definitely be checking this out!

Post: My Cash...is Worthless.

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Originally posted by @Aaron K.:

LOL this guy thinks that Wilmington NC is a high cost coastal market, forgive me for laughing but, you have many properties under $150k in your city itself and Fayetteville is only a 2 hour drive where there is tons of stuff under $100k.

 First of all, I'm not a guy. Although based on your comment you impress me as the kind of person who would never consider that a woman could invest in real estate.

Second, I'm sure looking from the outside in and comparing it to say, Miami, we are cheap. The average wage in Wilmington is tragically low against our cost of living. You wouldn't know that unless you lived here.

You also wouldn't know that while we have "a lot" of houses < $100k there almost exclusively in high drug/crime areas or require so much rehab (large historic home area) that you won't make much on a flip. If you're just looking at listings you hardly have a sense of the immediate area. 

Post: My Cash...is Worthless.

Casey RomanPosted
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Originally posted by @Mike D.:

@Casey Roman

I would be afraid of investing in your market anyway. Sounds like the market is way over valued.

If I were you I'd look at investing in a desirable smaller town nearby or look into long distance investments in the midwest.

It wasn't when I moved here. Then we were listed on a few rankings for "best places to retire" and a tsunami of retirees from NY/NJ sold their house for $750,000 and bought down here in cash.

Post: My Cash...is Worthless.

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Originally posted by @William Walker:

@Casey Roman I’m in Wilmington and just bought a house for 87k that rents for 950. Plenty of houses downtown that are under 100k

If you bought a house downtown for $87k that was either a probate that needed quite a bit of work or its in a bad area. There ARE plenty of houses downtown that are cheap because they are above 6th St. or Red Cross, usually in bad condition and usually in high crime pockets. I can get a house for >$80 but <$100k on Gores Row. Gores Row...the most notorious place to buy dope in Wilmington. 

Post: My Cash...is Worthless.

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Originally posted by @Patrick Menefee:

@Casey Roman just went back and realized this is almost the same as what @Joseph Cacciapaglia explained! Oops

You asked about if you can get started with just $100k...the short answer is absolutely. The long answer depends on your goals, what you want to invest in, where you want to invest, who you're investing with, etc. If you're partnering/lending on single family or small multifamily properties, it's absolutely enough. You may be able to work together with someone to provide most or all of the down payment, fund a rehab, or provide some other type of partnership and/or short term money

As far as resources go, I can't recommend books that directly speak to your side, but I can provide personal case studies from my own partnerships with private lenders/money partners and I can also highly recommend the book "Raising Private Capital" by Matt Faircloth. This is written for the investor looking for capital, but allows you to get a look at what the investor/potential partner is looking for and thinking about

Again, feel free to reach out with questions!

Thank you Patrick,

Lots of great idea here but the one that has really stood out to me is private lending. I am not ashamed to admit that I would be a terrible landlord because of my personality. I am extremely blunt and impatient. In the past this has lead to nothing but unnecessary stress with tenants. While private lending is certainly risky, I perceive it as lacking all the emotional elements that I find unbearable to have to deal with (like listening to the dramatic story of why rent is late again for the 5th time). I'm going to look for this book now. Thank you!

Post: My Cash...is Worthless.

Casey RomanPosted
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Originally posted by @Brian Ploszay:

It is very common for some businesses to have substantial depreciation write-offs, and their federal income taxes look meager.   Landlords are one of them.  But don't think for one second that landlords are not contributing;  Their paid real estate taxes are substantial.

Back to the original topic, your challenges of getting a loan.  Most landlords don't get regular loans, but commercial loans.  I'd try establishing a relationship with a local bank.  You would have to put 20% or more down-payment.  Set up several meetings with different banks and tell them your situation.   Local banks, however, are going to lend on local properties.  

Now, you live in an expensive Coastal City.  Keep your eye on the local market.  There may be some opportunities because of this downturn.  

This is a really good point and one I forgot to mention. I can make the 20% down and if I can prove cash flow a commercial loan may be a very viable option. Its rare that a mulit-family gets listed here unless its one of our 110 year old houses that's been converted but I can absolutely keep an eye out.