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All Forum Posts by: Casey Powers

Casey Powers has started 1 posts and replied 388 times.

@Elizabeth Schartman If the criminal record says “claims unsubstantiated” it's little more than hearsay, and we cannot decline for that. Also it didn't even show up on a normal background check, because it wasn't a conviction. Sometimes tenants go bad. This is always a risk and it doesn’t mean your PM is to blame. Your PM did not cause this and none of this indicates they failed in their duty.

It's SO easy for people to sit around online, armchair quarter-backing and place blame after the fact. The bottom line is, the tenant caused a little damage as will happen sometimes. If you're new to rentals it's a bigger shock to you. But as @Bill B. pointed out, this is just part of the business sometimes. This is small potatoes.

Post: Buying a condo a good option for rental?

Casey PowersPosted
  • Las Vegas, NV
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The Surfside example is extremely rare. The real problem with condos is every plumbing issue becomes a Problem. If your unit is upstairs and you have a leak, it damages the unit below costing you a lot more for repairs. If your unit is downstairs and the unit above leaks, it damages your unit and you have to make the upstairs owner pay for the repairs, which definitely is NOT always easy. Sometimes it’s difficult to get hold of them for days or even weeks, meanwhile the problem gets worse or you have to take matters into your own hands.

The other problem with condos is WHEN the neighbors cause problems you’ll have your tenant whining about the noise, smoke seeping through their unit, etc. There’s nothing you can do about the neighbor issues, and one bad neighbor in a condo will have your good tenants wanting to leave instead of renew a lease. That gets costly.

I’m not a fan of condos for rentals. Houses or townhouses with no up-down neighbors are much better.

Post: When to hire property management?

Casey PowersPosted
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Zillow isn't filtering out owner reviews. Good Yelp reviews is not a red flag.

Post: Zillow Stops Buying Houses and Stock Tumbles

Casey PowersPosted
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Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:
Originally posted by @Casey Powers:
Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Zillow stock is 8.92% insider owned. The other 91.8% is the public's problem.

They can continue pissing in the pool and inflating their debt for a good long time if they choose, and if it isn't them, it will some other giant that comes along.

This just isn't going back to being the world it was a couple decades ago for small REI investors.

 I think your last point is the key take away. Big money is fully invested into single family homes, whether that is flipping or buy and hold. Maybe they are struggling to make the business model work, but assuming they work through the issues, they are a threat. Who is going to chose to sell their home quickly for cash to wholesaler, when they can sell it to a well known brand like Zillow? I don't necessarily care what happens, but Zillow has been underestimated at every turn. Realtors fought them hard for years and they keep coming on hard.

Agree except realtors haven't fought Zillow hard AT ALL. The local boards are controlled by reps of large brokerages who have been quick to get into bed with Zillow and sell out the association. Just like Congress, NAR "leaders" don't represent the interests of the people they claim to represent - they represent the big money interests, in this case Zillow. The LVR president has always been from Big Brokerage with thousands of agents to vote for "their guy". "Their guy" then makes decisions for the entire association based on what Big Brokerage wants. So far that has been giving basically everything to Zillow.

 Thanks, I didn't know all that but it doesn't surprise me. My experience is more local agents I know that hate on Zillow. Especially in the early years. I think real estate agents have accepted Zillow and some use them for lead generation. 

We accept it because we know we don't have a real choice. Some use it but for leadgen most of those are paying way too much for Zillow to essentially sell their own leads back to them. heh

Post: Zillow Stops Buying Houses and Stock Tumbles

Casey PowersPosted
  • Las Vegas, NV
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Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Zillow stock is 8.92% insider owned. The other 91.8% is the public's problem.

They can continue pissing in the pool and inflating their debt for a good long time if they choose, and if it isn't them, it will some other giant that comes along.

This just isn't going back to being the world it was a couple decades ago for small REI investors.

 I think your last point is the key take away. Big money is fully invested into single family homes, whether that is flipping or buy and hold. Maybe they are struggling to make the business model work, but assuming they work through the issues, they are a threat. Who is going to chose to sell their home quickly for cash to wholesaler, when they can sell it to a well known brand like Zillow? I don't necessarily care what happens, but Zillow has been underestimated at every turn. Realtors fought them hard for years and they keep coming on hard.

Agree except realtors haven't fought Zillow hard AT ALL. The local boards are controlled by reps of large brokerages who have been quick to get into bed with Zillow and sell out the association. Just like Congress, NAR "leaders" don't represent the interests of the people they claim to represent - they represent the big money interests, in this case Zillow. The LVR president has always been from Big Brokerage with thousands of agents to vote for "their guy". "Their guy" then makes decisions for the entire association based on what Big Brokerage wants. So far that has been giving basically everything to Zillow.

Absolutely, smaller real estate investors are going to get ditched just like realtors, as big money takes over housing. 

Post: Zillow Stops Buying Houses and Stock Tumbles

Casey PowersPosted
  • Las Vegas, NV
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Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
Originally posted by @Casey Powers:
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
Originally posted by @Casey Powers:
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

I personally have never had zillow offer on anything i own.. I would have sold in a heart beat if they offer way over market  everything is for sale for the right price.

However on the few Vegas props we have I have had offers from think it was I pad and its was no different than all the wholesalers that low ball me constantly..  the I pad offers were 100k under market. 

1029 Appaloosa Hills, North Las Vegas. Highest exact model match sold comp in that neighborhood was $292k in June and the next highest was $290k. Zillow bought it for $324k with $1500 repair credit + closing costs and Zillow fees —> net $304k to seller, closed first week of August. Of course they put on the public record they paid $308k. Ha

Right after sale and cleanup, Zillow listed it for $311k. Progress Residential bought it for $321k and now has it listed for rent at $1995. Highest rental comps in that neighborhood were about $1600. I have watched Progress Residential consistently rent homes for $200-300 above neighborhood leased comps. How they do it: they pretty it up a lil bit and don’t screen renters. According to someone I know who’s currently renting from them, they only wanted to see a most recent bank statement, no credit check. 

This is just one example. Zillow and Opendoor have been consistently overpaying for a while now. And the bigcorp rental owners have been significantly overcharging on rents for a while too, at least for 2 years since I’ve been watching them. 

well if market for a seller is 290k minus standard closing costs of say 6% all in thats a net of about 270k  so if the seller netted 304k I can see someone doing that.. I would 

Of course sellers will go for the bigger payout. Point I’m making is these companies are overpaying for houses and there has to be more to it than just “flipping in volume”. 1) Typical bigcorp strategy has been operate at a loss to gain enough market share to control it. 2) Overpaying for property cuts most other brokerages out of the deal, essentially undercutting Zillow’s competition as a real estate broker. Industry busting. 3) With lending too, Zillow can position itself as the only place most people may go for anything real estate related. That gives enormous control over the housing market. 

This does NOT bode well longer term for consumers or even many other investors IMO.

seems like fair market is taking care of it..  IE they are losing money losing stock value and their experiment it appears does not/did not work. 

 LOL!!!! 

Post: Zillow Stops Buying Houses and Stock Tumbles

Casey PowersPosted
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Posts 403
  • Votes 474
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
Originally posted by @Casey Powers:
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

I personally have never had zillow offer on anything i own.. I would have sold in a heart beat if they offer way over market  everything is for sale for the right price.

However on the few Vegas props we have I have had offers from think it was I pad and its was no different than all the wholesalers that low ball me constantly..  the I pad offers were 100k under market. 

1029 Appaloosa Hills, North Las Vegas. Highest exact model match sold comp in that neighborhood was $292k in June and the next highest was $290k. Zillow bought it for $324k with $1500 repair credit + closing costs and Zillow fees —> net $304k to seller, closed first week of August. Of course they put on the public record they paid $308k. Ha

Right after sale and cleanup, Zillow listed it for $311k. Progress Residential bought it for $321k and now has it listed for rent at $1995. Highest rental comps in that neighborhood were about $1600. I have watched Progress Residential consistently rent homes for $200-300 above neighborhood leased comps. How they do it: they pretty it up a lil bit and don’t screen renters. According to someone I know who’s currently renting from them, they only wanted to see a most recent bank statement, no credit check. 

This is just one example. Zillow and Opendoor have been consistently overpaying for a while now. And the bigcorp rental owners have been significantly overcharging on rents for a while too, at least for 2 years since I’ve been watching them. 

well if market for a seller is 290k minus standard closing costs of say 6% all in thats a net of about 270k  so if the seller netted 304k I can see someone doing that.. I would 

Of course sellers will go for the bigger payout. Point I’m making is these companies are overpaying for houses and there has to be more to it than just “flipping in volume”. 1) Typical bigcorp strategy has been operate at a loss to gain enough market share to control it. 2) Overpaying for property cuts most other brokerages out of the deal, essentially undercutting Zillow’s competition as a real estate broker. Industry busting. 3) With lending too, Zillow can position itself as the only place most people may go for anything real estate related. That gives enormous control over the housing market. 

This does NOT bode well longer term for consumers or even many other investors IMO.

Post: Zillow Stops Buying Houses and Stock Tumbles

Casey PowersPosted
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Posts 403
  • Votes 474
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

I personally have never had zillow offer on anything i own.. I would have sold in a heart beat if they offer way over market  everything is for sale for the right price.

However on the few Vegas props we have I have had offers from think it was I pad and its was no different than all the wholesalers that low ball me constantly..  the I pad offers were 100k under market. 

1029 Appaloosa Hills, North Las Vegas. Highest exact model match sold comp in that neighborhood was $292k in June and the next highest was $290k. Zillow bought it for $324k with $1500 repair credit + closing costs and Zillow fees —> net $304k to seller, closed first week of August. Of course they put on the public record they paid $308k. Ha

Right after sale and cleanup, Zillow listed it for $311k. Progress Residential bought it for $321k and now has it listed for rent at $1995. Highest rental comps in that neighborhood were about $1600. I have watched Progress Residential consistently rent homes for $200-300 above neighborhood leased comps. How they do it: they pretty it up a lil bit and don’t screen renters. According to someone I know who’s currently renting from them, they only wanted to see a most recent bank statement, no credit check. 

This is just one example. Zillow and Opendoor have been consistently overpaying for a while now. And the bigcorp rental owners have been significantly overcharging on rents for a while too, at least for 2 years since I’ve been watching them. 

Post: Zillow Stops Buying Houses and Stock Tumbles

Casey PowersPosted
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In my market they've been paying $30k+ over the highest sold comps in the neighborhood, so that sellers would NET several thousand above the next highest sold comp for a model match house in the exact same complex. That's not a flipping business. More like a race to buy enough property to get a monopoly on the real estate market. Isn't that the SOP for every bigcorp? Operate at a loss until they own enough of a market to take control of it. What other purpose would they have for buying so much and overpaying so much? I assume if they are pausing, it's not because "flipping isn't working out". There has to be some other explanation.

Originally posted by @Ryan Stumbo:

@Casey Powers you legit have no clue what you’re talking about. You’re trying to “win” a debate instead of just talking like a human. Not one realtor blew me off.

Realtor 1) told me that I need to lower my expectations if I expect 5% CoCr in any deal in Phoenix and that those deals were 10 years ago and I’m too late. He also stated I don’t understand the market here quite yet and the institutional money is going to beat me out of any deal. Respectable response but still had me wondering what he meant by not understanding the market and why asking for 5% seemed unreasonable to him. Again, asking for info, not claiming I had all the answers or was a real estate guru.

Realtor 2) told me she would give my offer verbally but was not understanding the market. I told her don’t worry about it, that if she was that convinced the offer wouldn’t even be listened to, then I don’t want to waste her time.

Now, you know what they say about assuming right? Maybe had you taken the time to ask more questions this would’ve been more productive for us both. No realtor blew me off. None of us had rude interactions. I told the 2 realtors I’ve spoken with that I wanted 5% return so I would adjust my offer according to that and both basically didn’t want to send the offer. Which I respect, clearly it was below the list price, but in other markets I’ve been in, most people who have had houses on the market over 100 days are just happy to hear an offer. The low offer can still open a door to get a better deal. You never know the answer unless you ask. It wasn’t like I just came up with a number and decided to lowball them without any math. The math supported my offer. But again, as I’ve now admitted, I didn’t realize so many people in the real estate world were willing to buy strictly for appreciation. I was naive in thinking everyone was like me and in real estate for the cash flow and having that passive income give them their freedom to have their life back and go to their children’s basketball game.

Like I said, I still have a lot to learn. I usually am a pretty friendly guy, but when people just start assuming things that they’re wrong about, it’s kind of annoying.

Telling you that you don't understand the market plus not wanting to send your offers = blowing you off. You clearly didn't like their responses, as shown by your longwinded posts here discussing it. Now instead of taking the feedback you're just dismissing anyone who attempts to directly explain it to you. Sorry if you can't handle it.

From original post: 

Even if they view it as lowball, attach my spreadsheet to the offer and show them their property is way overpriced without directly telling them that and maybe they'll come to their senses. Me thinking the realtors would respect math also and see that I'm correct, I've had 2 realtors tell me "you're just not in tune with the Phoenix market." At this point, I will ask them politely to explain what this statement means because my math shows this deal is a terrible deal. They didn't respond.

So, you went in with arrogance trying to show them how you believe their pricing was wrong and you're "correct". You showed them all they needed to know - you don't know their market, you don't know how residential pricing works, and you think you know better than them. When you asked for a further explanation they didn't respond because they knew they wouldn't get anywhere. And you want to insult my "communication skills". LOL