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All Forum Posts by: Casey Miles

Casey Miles has started 24 posts and replied 166 times.

Post: New member from Scottsdale, Arizona

Casey MilesPosted
  • Investor
  • Mesa, AZ
  • Posts 176
  • Votes 54

Hi Dennis and welcome to BP!

What are the details on your first rental? Location, SF or MF, what type of cash on cash/CAP rate are you getting on it?

Good for you on jumping in on the RE world!

Post: New member from Arizona

Casey MilesPosted
  • Investor
  • Mesa, AZ
  • Posts 176
  • Votes 54

Hi Sandy and welcome to BP!

There are tons of ways to make $ in real estate. What specific type of RE are you interested in? This will help you get more relevant answers.

Take care,

Casey

Hi Kevin,

There are always exceptions obviously but generally speaking the margins on cash on cash and CAPS are smaller the farther north you go here in AZ. Tucson having better #s than Phoenix, Phoenix having better #s than Prescott, Prescott having better #s than Flagstaff. I've seen property outside the populated areas that have better numbers on paper but you might have a vacancy issue. 

There are lots of MF repositions in Phx right now buy there not even 3 years old. I probably did the quick math on 10 properties yesterday. All but one (if I recall correctly) hadn't been bought/sold in the last two years with over half being bought/sold in the last year. I will admit that I don't look at market data as much as some and I mainly take an individual approach on properties to see if they work for me. With that said we're at a peak for me personally. There are still people buying buy it's not me.

Be patient in your search but be ready to execute when that perfect property comes along.

Good luck in your search,

Casey 

Post: New Member in Arizona

Casey MilesPosted
  • Investor
  • Mesa, AZ
  • Posts 176
  • Votes 54
Originally posted by @Jeremy Jessup:

Thanks Bob. Yeah, that makes a huge difference for sure. If I'm understanding the rest of the info on this property correctly, are you saying that by analyzing a bunch of other properties the same way I should be able to determine an average to compare a property against? Or do I need to get in touch with a realtor who can pull info on completed sales to get the actual CAP rates from other transactions? How do I go about developing that baseline to get familiar with my market?

Hi Jeremy,

Your cap rates are going to fluctuate. Especially amongst different classes of neighborhood. You'll always want to run your own numbers (and run them the same way every time) and don't rely on what's reported on the MLS/brochure. Some agents/sellers list pro forma numbers (especially for income) rather than actual. Also keep in mind that there might be deferred maintenance on some properties resulting in a higher initial capex than routine R&M. In the perfect world everyone would price properties at the respective cap rate for like properties in the same area. That doesn't happen, although some on this forum believe it does. You're always going to have people who think theirs is worth more and those who just want to get out from a property. It's more accurate to say cap rates have a range. I literally analyzed three like properties this week in similar neighborhoods. They ranged from a 6.5 to an 8.13. I'd say if you're seeing a >9 cap rate you're in a C/D neighborhood or you've found yourself a fire sale!

Post: Real Estate Investor and Agent

Casey MilesPosted
  • Investor
  • Mesa, AZ
  • Posts 176
  • Votes 54

Hi Grant,

Welcome to BP. What type of investing do you focus on? Do you invest in the valley or out of state?

Take care,

Casey

Post: My first flip- Profit: 19,100

Casey MilesPosted
  • Investor
  • Mesa, AZ
  • Posts 176
  • Votes 54
Originally posted by @David Thomas:

Congratulations on your first flip! I was wondering how you were able to use 0% credit cards for such a large amount of money. My wife and I are trying to finance the purchase of house by getting a hard money loan because we don't qualify for traditional financing or a HELOC. The hard money loans have much larger fees and interest payments. My wife and I just moved from California to Arizona to be closer to our first grandchild. We have our house and four rental properties paid in full, along with a small pension. Since I retired from my job, it has been harder to finance investment properties. Does anyone have any advice on how we might finance the purchase of properties in the Arizona area? We have found a few good deals, but financing is another story. Thanks!

Hi David,

DTI is always going to be tough regardless of the lender. Usually local/regional banks will be better and most will consider using 75% of the proposed property's income towards your DTI. Are you claiming the rentals you currently have on your taxes? If not, you'll wanna start.

Best of luck, 

Casey 

Post: Investor Friendly Real Estate Agent

Casey MilesPosted
  • Investor
  • Mesa, AZ
  • Posts 176
  • Votes 54

Hi Gene,

I'm an investor, I'm friendly, and.... I'm a real estate agent :)

What type of properties are you interested in? Are you looking for buy and holds, flips, commercial, residential? How much experience do you have in RE?

Let me know how I can help,

Casey

Post: New Member in Arizona

Casey MilesPosted
  • Investor
  • Mesa, AZ
  • Posts 176
  • Votes 54
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @Casey Miles:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @Casey Miles:

Things have gotten pricey here and cash flow is hard to come by. I'd start learning how to annalize properties (CAP rates/cash on cash). This way when something comes along you'll know if it's a deal or not.

Take care,

Casey 

How will a cap rate tell you if you have a deal or not? 

Hi Bob,

Judging by your post count and direct comments on cap rates I'm assuming your question is more of a "defend your position" question than a genuine question?

Obviously there are a ton of ways to interpret/determine value such as location, vacancy rates, capex, etc. etc. I do believe analyzing cap rates is a good place to start learning if a "deal" is actually a deal. Assuming you have identical properties with identical vacancies in identical neighborhoods the one with the higher cap rate is the better deal. If you have the same situation with cap rates but one property currently has a 20% vacancy I'd say the property with the vacancy is the better deal because of the upside potential in rents. Assuming your looking at actual cap rates not pro forma.

When I started investing in Phoenix I was seeing 9-10% cap rates and would say I was getting better "deals" back then. Now those same properties are at 6.5-7.5% cap rates and I would say the deals aren't as good now. 

A cap rate isn't the end all be all in determining value but it's the best place to start for a new investor. I think of it as the "sniff test" in the analyzing process.

Aloha Casey. there is no position.  You either understand cap rates or you don't.  You don't.  My question was to see what part of it that you learned incorrectly.  There is no cap rate until a sale has been made.

1. Identical properties on the market will have the EXACT same cap rate, market. If one NOI sells at a lower rate then that only means that someone created a cap rate that shows that the person overpaid for the property!

2.  Identical properties except for vacancy rates will have the EXACT same cap rate.  So there is no evidence of a "deal". 

3. All a lower cap rate means is that the market is willing to pay more for NOI. That does not mean the property is a "deal", it just reflects the market behavior, right or wrong. Only analysis of the market, NOT THE CAP RATE, will reflect profitability of the transaction.

Cap rate is not a metric for "deals".

You're saying you have to annalize the entire market a property is in to determine if a specific property will be profitable? It's almost like you're saying all properties are valued the same within a given market and there isn't a need annalize properties on an individual basis. I know you can't be saying that so what indicators do you use to annalize specific properties?

Thanks,

Casey 

Post: Investor Real Estate Agents

Casey MilesPosted
  • Investor
  • Mesa, AZ
  • Posts 176
  • Votes 54
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Hi all, I'm looking for real estate agents familiar with the Phoenix AZ area. I am a real estate investor, and I am expecting to fund a few RE deals in the next weeks. I am looking to purchase homes in the 100-130k range in the area. I had a few questions:

- I am going to make low offers, are you comfortable with this?

- What are do you specialize in terms of price/property-type/location?

- Do you preview the listings for your buyers, or check them out before you take potential investors?

- Do you have lender and vendor relationships?

Thanks all for reading! Looking forward to doing business with everybody.

Hi Michael,

There are definitely a few investor/agents here. I'm primarily an investor who is also an agent, investing is my primary focus. I'll try and answer your questions from my perspective.

  • I'm comfortable with low offers but nothing unrealistic. I won't spin my wheels offering 40 cents on the dollar or anything. If you want to fire off 100's of lowball offers you'll want to find a more hungry/green agent for this.
  • I like MF (although this is pretty dry right now) and single family in B and C neighborhoods.
  • Personally when working in the <$250k arena I'm not going to physically check out properties prior to showing them. I'll run some quick numbers, etc. on all properties but I won't physically check them out beforehand.
  • I have a lender I prefer to work with and a few vendors too.

Are you looking for buy/hold properties or flips? What type of properties are you looking at? I'm assuming SF since any MF in the 100-130k range is probably going to be a disaster.

Good luck and happy hunting!

Casey


Post: New Member in Arizona

Casey MilesPosted
  • Investor
  • Mesa, AZ
  • Posts 176
  • Votes 54
Originally posted by @Jeremy Jessup:

Thanks for the input so far.

Casey - I'm going to start taking the free course BP offers before I start looking for properties... I don't even know what a "CAP rate" is or what "cash on cash" means yet. I live in Arizona, but have lived in a number of other states over the years and would be happy to invest elsewhere if there's a better market for my needs. Do you know how to find a good target area to look for investment opportunities?

Vickie - Good idea... I get lots of hours in the car each week.  Hopefully, as I learn more about what's involved, I'll be able to partner with some folks who can show me the ropes a bit (I've just gotta know enough to be able to bring something to the table... and that might take a while).

Start licensing to podcasts too. I will say there is a ton of stuff to learn and you won't be able to learn everything. Don't get caught up in learning so much that you get analysis paralysis. I see a lot of new investors get to this point. You don't want to be careless with your money a jump into a bad deal but don't be afraid to learn the basics and execute.

"Cash on Cash" = rate of return on the actual cash you have to put into the deal such as down payments and acquisition costs.

"CAP rate" (Capitalization rate) = represents the rate of return on the capital investment. If you were paying all cash for a property this would be the rate of return. You essentially determine the NOI (Net Operating Income) and divide it by the purchase price.