Hey @Rae Hoffman I love a good healthy discussion :-)
One great thing is that there's no one solution that's the right fit for everyone.
For the people who have the time, patience, and desire to go through all of those free resources to find the right settings, read the right reports / tools to get the right keywords, wade through the right articles... sweet! We actually have all of that available for free on our blog as well. So we totally get the side of the coin that there are free ways to do those things mentioned above. It's similar to a book, or coach, or consultant... I can find almost anything I need online for free... but often times things packaged into a system or a process that make it easier for me as the consumer and help me streamline things is of extra value and worth investing in.
As far as the rankings, by "systems" I should have clarified but I was referring to website systems specific to real estate investing. Wordpress is the dominant force for sure. But the fundamental difference in a WP site vs. something like Carrot is that with WP you have to...
- Find or pay to have a theme built (hope it converts visitors into leads well... most don't)
- Get hosting (most use really low grade sub $10/mo shared hosting)
- Come up w/ the proper content strategy (most don't have the experience to structure the content correctly to perform well or be a benefit for SEO)
- Write that content
- Add a bunch of plugins (which often times increase chance of vulnerability by hackers or slow things down... but all require the site owner to maintain the plugins)
- Dial the site in on mobile (most WP themes don't perform well converting visitors to leads on mobile, at any given time we're running 10-20 split tests across dozens of sites improving performance on our platform)
- Run split tests to continually increase performance
- Setup your analytics correctly (we make it easy or use our built in analytics)
- Continue to update themes, plugins, WP (which isn't hard, it's very easy as you know... but many people don't want to do that)
- Keep up on the SEO trends / market trends (which we help our clients stay ahead of)
- etc. etc. etc.
100% anyone can use free or cheap tools to rank well in Google and in the case of a WP site... the simple fact of it being WP doesn't contribute to it ranking well at all. But what we try to do is help our clients not have to go through the steps above... streamline it for them... let them personalize and customize things within our framework that is proven to work... then train and help them as they implement their marketing.
Just a service focused on people who don't want to have to go it alone or wade through things themselves. For those who want to go the lowest price option and invest more time and want more control... Carrot or a platform like ours isn't the right fit.
With the results side of things... I'd be happy to open up our data set and show you the results of Carrot clients... both SEO wise and actual leads. Upward of 28k-40k leads a month come through Carrot... over 60% from SEO.
We're 100% on the same page that a "top ranking" is completely a vanity metric. Even SEO companies that say "we'll get you on page 1" aren't truly serving the client well because the client thinks "page 1" is awesome...when in reality over 50-60%+ of all traffic goes to the top 3 results... so really if a site isn't in the top 3 it's likely not pulling much unless it's a crazy highly searched term.
We're 1000000% on the same page here and our focus is and always has been on results... which only start w/ the ranking as you know. Then goes to converting the visitor into the lead (28k-40k/mo w/ us), then converting those leads into profitable deals.
So yep, we're speaking the same language :-)
Again, I always love good healthy convo and your points are 100% valid.
Just different solutions for different people and I'm happy anytime to dive in and show people our data and results if anyone is curious or wondering.
Thanks for spurring the convo Rae! Good stuff.