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All Forum Posts by: Brian W.

Brian W. has started 19 posts and replied 60 times.

Post: I'm going to my first local REI meeting. What should I say or not say?

Brian W.Posted
  • Peachtree City, GA
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 1

I thought I'd update this thread with my experience of my first REI meeting.

The people there were great. Each person had their paradigm of investing in real estate and it was very interesting and educational to hear about each of those paradigms. Every single person there was very nice as well as humble, no matter their level of success.

With respect to learning about real estate investing from BiggerPockets vs. the meeting, the overall pace of the meeting for me was too slow since each person can really only ask one question per meeting. Understandably, if each person asked as many questions as they wanted to, the meeting would never end. So, as a new investor with so many questions, I still find BiggerPockets to be a more valuable and much more efficient source of education for me.

Will I go back? Probably. But, I won't have the same expectations I did of coming away having learned as much as I would have if I were to spend the equivalent amount of time here on BiggerPockets. Instead, I will go in with the expectation of meeting more of the people and seeing how we might do business together.

Should I tell tenants that it behooves them to notify me of a water leak immediately as it costs them money too? From what I've experienced and observed, water is the biggest source of damage to a home. I would like to prevent water damage as much and as soon as possible.

Should I consider giving flowers or some other welcome gift to new tenants?

Am I responsible in any way for tenants dealing drugs or growing marijuana in one of my properties?

Post: Can the mailman or code enforcement officer help me find deals?

Brian W.Posted
  • Peachtree City, GA
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 1

Is it a good idea to ask the mailman and/or code enforcement officer to let me know of any houses they know of that are vacant, for sale by owner, or otherwise potentially a good deal that is practically unknown to other investors?

What are some ideas that can help encourage the tenant to leave the place in good shape and to prevent or minimize damage done by a disgruntled tenant who is getting evicted?

Should I remind tenants of their security deposit before they move out (either voluntary or eviction) so they leave place in good shape?

I was thinking about reminding them of the exact dollar amount of their security deposit by saying something like, "Upon moving out, pending there are no damages, you'll get your $1000 deposit back." I would do this for both voluntary move-outs and evictions: 1. To get the tenants in good standing who are voluntarily moving out to leave the place in good shape, and 2. To discourage damage resulting from anger over an eviction.

What are you guys' thoughts?

Any other ideas?

Post: Tips for finding homes not on MLS?

Brian W.Posted
  • Peachtree City, GA
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by Ned Carey:
If you are looking on FSBO.com or Craigs list.com you might as well be looking on the MLS. Those deals are no secret. Lots of investors look there.

Here are some people or situation to market to
Pre-foreclosure
rent court
vacant houses
absentee owners
out of state owners
code violations
fires
tax delinquent properties
probate/estates
bankruptcy
attorneys for the above
boarded up houses

Jerry Puckett and Michael Quarles are both very sharp marketing guys here on BP follow them and read their posts. They can help you figure how to reach the above with the right message. Good luck - Ned


Originally posted by David Beard:
For a buy & hold investor who is only going to buy 1 to 4 properties per year, particularly if you have a full-time job, it seems like the most cost-and time-effective approach is probably to find a few good wholesalers, as Jerry suggests, and pay them their 4-8K fee per deal. Otherwise, the expense of doing large mailings, and the time of taking all the calls, meeting with sellers, etc., seems hard to justify if you're not doing volume.

You might say, but 3 deals times 6k wholesale fee per deal = $18K that I could have saved/earned by doing my own marketing, minus the cost of the mailings and the value of the many hours spent on it. But... the experienced wholesaler who is out there every day will probably negotiate a lower price than you could, so when all is said and done the value of doing your own direct mailing as a small-volume buy & hold buyer seems dubious, at least to me.

These two posts are some of the very best advice I've received in my time here at BP.

Thank you very much Ned and David.

Post: Tips for finding homes not on MLS?

Brian W.Posted
  • Peachtree City, GA
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 1

Great advice Brian and Jerry. Thanks a lot.

Post: I'm going to my first local REI meeting. What should I say or not say?

Brian W.Posted
  • Peachtree City, GA
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by Troy Fisher:
The first rei meeting! Exciting. First develop your elevator pitch:
Hi, im Brian, I am looking to purchase my first buy and hold property. I'm looking for a 3/2 in (farm area). I'm looking to buy a property that meets my (favorite investor metric; cap, cash on cash, roi, whatever)

Ask more questions than you answer, and listen more than you talk.

Take a pen, ask for a card, and make two notes on the back: on thing that you can use as an identifier, clothes, day job, interesting fact about them, and how they invest, flipper, land lord, wholesaler, whatever. If they are someone you want to connect with more intimately or someone that you think can help you more, email them within 48 hrs, and be personable, individualize each email to the Individual.

Fantastic advice Troy. Thanks.

Post: I'm going to my first local REI meeting. What should I say or not say?

Brian W.Posted
  • Peachtree City, GA
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by Gordon T.:
Brian W. - are you going to AtlantaREIA or GaREIA?

I'm not sure. It's at the IHOP in Fayetteville on the third Thursday of every month.

Great information guys - thank you very much.

Here's a situation that I see in my head that I'm wondering about: It's Christmas Day. I'm at a family member's house with my entire family enjoying all things Christmas. My phone is on vibrate and I'm not even thinking about a possible phone call. However, later that night at 10:00PM when I leave their house to head back to mine, I get a voicemail from earlier in the day about a water or heating "emergency". Do I return the call and call a repairman immediately or do I wait until the next morning to handle everything or do I simply text the tenant and tell them I'll contact them in the morning?

I may be making this a bigger deal than it is or worrying too much about this, but when I'm with my family, I'll often take my phone out of my pocket, put it on vibrate or silent, and put it on a counter somewhere until much later that night. Must I be "on call" 24 hours a day?

Post: Will quit claiming property to spouse protect me?

Brian W.Posted
  • Peachtree City, GA
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by Rob K:
Brian W. Check out this thread I started a while back:

http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/52/topics/78884-has-a-tenant-or-former-tenant-ever-sued-you

I had heard all of the horror stories about someone being sued and "losing everything". I think it's all an urban legend. I talked to a lawyer about this and he said the biggest lawsuit he ever heard of involved a death at a large apartment complex and the award was one million. He said to carry at least a million in liability and sleep well.

On a side note - I had never been sued before until recently. I had a tenant that was all kinds of crazy. She wants her full security deposit back instead of the portion I returned to her. We're only talking about $300-400, but she wants it and I don't want to pay it. We are going to small claims court next month where I get to pretend to be a lawyer. I have fun with it.

I already read through that entire thread a couple of weeks ago. There's a lot of great information in there.

I agree, I think the "lost everything" situation is very rare.

With that said, to everyone here, is having a one or two million dollar umbrella policy enough that I can rest easy or should I have a sub-LLC for each property I own?

P.S. I don't own any right now and my goal as of right now is to have about 3 - 4 that I will personally manage and, hopefully, personally own to avoid the added costs and effort of holding each property in its own sub-LLC. I currently own a business that is an LLC so I'm very familiar with what goes into establishing and maintaining one.