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All Forum Posts by: Carolyn Walters

Carolyn Walters has started 2 posts and replied 4 times.

In their letter they stated the following law:

1. You have 30 days from the date of this notice to return the security deposit (Wyoming statue 1-21-1208) 

2. Wyo statue 1-21-1208 the security deposit should be returned because the contract/lease does not state that it is non-refundable. 

However, the attorney said my lease does state that it’s non-refundable because it states that it’s refundable as long as the following terms are met...one of the terms being that they aren’t default in their lease and another part of the lease stages they must give a 30 days notice. It’s a weird situation since they haven’t moved in yet as they notified me before move in but two weeks after they signed the lease that they weren’t going to move in. 

I’ve posted before about this situation but have some new things happening since then.

Tenants signed lease on June 9th and paid security deposit. Lease states move in date as July 1st and 1st month’s rent was due on or before June 1st before they would be given the keys.

Tenants contacted me on June 21st staying they have cancer and wanted to delay move in until August 1st. 

I was nice and gave them two options: 

1. Pay first month’s rent on or before July 1st and I’ll apply it to August’s rent and waive July’s rent since they wouldn’t be moving in until August 1st (so basically security for me that we wouldn’t get to August 1st and they’d then want me to hold it until Sep. and so on) and in my mind if they had the first month’s rent ready to go like they should have, they would have picked this option. 

2. Pay half of rent for July to hold it and pay full months rent starting August 1st at move in.

And of course the 3rd option was then to give me notice that they weren’t moving in and I’d have to keep the security deposit because they didn’t honor the contact and didn’t give me 30 days notice.

They didn’t like the first 2 options and on June 23rd demanded their security deposit back stating that the lease doesn’t commence until July 1st (their move in date) so they are entitled to the security deposit back. They don’t seem to understand that the day they signed the lease (June 9th) was the day they entered a binding contract and they also owe July’s rent if I can’t get it rented as they didn’t give a 30 days notice. 

My lease states that they can get their security deposit back if they aren’t default in the lease. An attorney has informed me that they are default in their lease because they didn’t honor the contract and they also didn’t give a 30 days notice. I had already held the house for them for 3 weeks and turned away two other potential renters during that 3 weeks. 

The tenants sent me a certified letter (written by them and not on attorney letterhead or anything) demanding I give the full deposit back or they would have a lawsuit against me and I’d then owe the whole deposit, their attorney fees, their court fees, and any damages to them for suffering due to financial burden. 

Do you think they mean taking me to small claims court or are they meaning something bigger? Can they really make me pay for their attorney fees, court fees, and suffering for financial burden?  Would this threat scare you as a landlord?  They’ve also threatened to put it in the small town newspaper because they don’t get many juicy stories like this often so they will love it. Their words were so are you going to give the security deposit back or do you want to go to court and have the judge shame you. 

Their excuse for wanting to delay move in was he just got diagnosed with cancer and needed to get treatment before moving in. 

Yes the lease states that first months rent is due on or before the 1st of July before move in. 

I assume they loose the security deposit then since they are breaking the lease? 

Carolyn

I have a renter who signed a lease and turned in a security deposit to start renting at the beginning of July according to the lease. They signed it a few weeks ago. They called me today wanting to know if they could move in August 15th instead because one of them was diagnosed with cancer. So they want me to continue to hold it for them which would amount to half of June, all of July, and half of August without them paying. They signed a month to month lease.

What are my options at this point? 

Carolyn