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All Forum Posts by: Caroline Notman

Caroline Notman has started 1 posts and replied 2 times.

Post: Fix or quit vs Put up with them for 5 more months

Caroline NotmanPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Gilroy, CA
  • Posts 2
  • Votes 0

Thanks for the responses. 
Just want to be clear that at no time was I ever considering renewing their lease. I was just telling them that to get them to pay the late fees and dog deposit.  I am definitely not that dumb. I believe that when they do move out that they will use the bond as the last months rent and I will have nothing to fall back on if there are damages. So that is why I was asking for the deposit for the dogs. Lesson learned - always take first + last + bond  

Great call out re the late fees rolling into the rent  Our lease does not have that in there - but I am going to be sure to add it for my next tenants.  We have been doing short term rentals for years but this is our first long term and it has taught us a lot  We have had 2 tenants in just over 2 years and OMG there are some ‘people’ out there.  First tenant broke the lease and left after 5 months because she couldn’t afford the rent. She had a horse boarding/training business that apparently failed. We found new tenants immediately and they seemed fine - but are the tenants from hell. Our property is what I believe you term as a Class A rental  4000 sq ft on 5 acres in the Bay Area.  I guess that is why it attracts entitled tenants.

I am just trying to figure out if it is worth going through the process of evicting them at this late stage in the lease. I will be rid of them in 5 months - but yes you are all right that I should have evicted them way sooner. 
As much as my short term rentals are constant work at least I don’t have to put up with long term pain. 
I do appreciate all of your insights. 

Post: Fix or quit vs Put up with them for 5 more months

Caroline NotmanPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Gilroy, CA
  • Posts 2
  • Votes 0

My tenants are on a 2 year fixed lease which ends in mid Feb 2025.  They have been a pain in my 'side' and are so rude and entitled its beyond words.  They are currently in breach of their lease. 

1. 2 unpermitted dogs 

2. turned off my external security cameras. 

3. owe me 3 late payments of $900 total, although rent is current.

They recently apologized for being so rude to me and asked me if I would consider extending their lease for another 3 years.  I said I would 'consider' it if we are able to address the existing lease violations.  I offered to add the 2 dogs to the existing lease for a refundable deposit of one months rent.  I asked that they pay the late fees and turn the security cameras back on.  They said NO - it's no fair of us to ask for a deposit for the dogs.  They won't pay the late fees or turn on the cameras.  Priceless!!  I did point out that they are asking me to enter into a further 3-year contract with them when they are already breaking the terms of the existing contract, but they are so entitled and oblivious that the reality escapes them. 

I only have 5 more months to put up with them, but I am so very tempted to issue a fix or quit and get them out sooner.  Under the terms of my lease it states that if I evict them they are still liable to pay the rent for the remainder of the term.

Lessee shall continue paying rent and all other charges for the Premises to the end of the term of this lease,
whether or not the Premises becomes vacant by reason of abandonment, breach of the lease by Lessee,
wrongful termination by Lessee or if the Lessee has been evicted for breach of this lease, to the extent said
obligation for rent has not been mitigated, abated or discharged, in whole or in part, by any law or
ordinance.

My question to you landlords who have previously been through a fix or quite is "What would you do and why?"

Any advice for all you experienced landlords is very much appreciated.