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All Forum Posts by: Cammie Lewis

Cammie Lewis has started 2 posts and replied 7 times.

Hi Amber! Thanks for the response. I will PM you to get his info. 

Hi everyone, I'm a newbie from California but I'm buying in Cincinnati. I've been looking for contractors in the area but most of the ones I've contacted are booked until late this year.

We are going to close on a single family the Incline District in about 2 weeks and my agent is helping me line up contractors but I want more options. It's a cosmetic rehab and its looking like we need interior paint, carpet removal, laminate flooring (or refinishing hardwood), drywall repair, replacing or painting some doors, gutter work and pressure washing some brick. We also have a bowed wall in our garage that we would need fixed. 

Any recommendations/referrals? Also, would love to network and learn from people in the area. 

Thanks!

Cammie Lewis

Post: Buying Notes Without LLC or IRA

Cammie LewisPosted
  • Diamond Bar, CA
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 4

Originally posted by @Chris Seveney:

I have been sued by a borrower saying the debt was invalidated. They filed it in federal court and requested discovery and a trial. it would of cost me around $40k to defend it even though it was completely illegitimate. House was worth around $50k so we had to negotiate it. 

They can sue for many things, unfair debt collection practices, invalid lien... Does not mean they win, but it does happen. You really have to read your servicer contract to make sure they indemnify you.

For me i am not as worried about getting sued but having my personal name and address on a document if I had to foreclose on someone. 

To the original poster, your options are to invest in a fund, JV with someone, buy a partial... All of these would not have your name/entity on the asset. Also there are start up costs and lost opportunity costs with note investing so if you are only going to do one offs that is probably a better way to go. That is what I typically recommend to people because if you do due diligence on an asset and do not buy it there is $500 out the door, throw in a LLC, and startup costs your first note MAY pay all your fees...
Originally posted by @John Underwood:

Whats your liability as a Note Holder?

No one is going to sue you if they slip and fall.

I guess there is liability! Thanks for sharing and presenting options. I just find it hard to justify spending $800 a year on an LLC when I have one note that brings in 2-3K. It makes sense after a few but it would eat into by return to start out.

Post: Buying Notes Without LLC or IRA

Cammie LewisPosted
  • Diamond Bar, CA
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 4

@Don Konipol I looked into starting a foreign LLC but came across this thread that stated California would still require me to pay the $800 fee. Here's that thread: https://www.biggerpockets.com/...

I agree that there's probably no liability but just want to make sure I'm doing things right to start off. I like the idea of a trust even though it doesn't help with liability. Would we be able to use the cashflow freely as it comes or would there be restrictions? @Bob Malecki

Post: Buying Notes Without LLC or IRA

Cammie LewisPosted
  • Diamond Bar, CA
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 4

Hi everyone,

My name is Cammie and I'm trying to start my note investing journey. My wife and I plan on investing at 20-25k to buy a note or two each year. 

I hear a lot about people using IRA accounts and businesses to buy notes but I dont necessarily want to use every note for retirement and starting a business would cost an extra $800 a year for us (California residents).

Does anyone have advice on whether I should (or can) buy notes in my own name? I know that would put all the liability on us personally but we dont have many assets to protect right now I think it's a low probably that we will be sued or anything like that . 

Or is there a better strategy we should research?

Thanks!

Post: Note Investing Newbie Questions

Cammie LewisPosted
  • Diamond Bar, CA
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 4

Thank you both for your feedback and advice. I see your points about spending a little money up front to save a good amount of money in the future. I think at some point, I will have to invest in a program to get some real education in the business.

My wife and I are probably not leaving our jobs anytime in the next 10 years (We both work in higher ed and enjoy it). The initial mindset was to buy one note a year in the 20K range and eventually start buying two around year five. That would theoretically put us between 10-15 notes. 

I don't know what program would be best for this kind of strategy. I've been looking at Dan Deppen's program at https://www.fusionnotes.com/. He has a due diligence program fro $500 that I thought would be good for getting our feet wet. I listen to his podcast and think he's pretty honest and upfront about everything. 

Any other suggestion or advice is appreciated!

Post: Note Investing Newbie Questions

Cammie LewisPosted
  • Diamond Bar, CA
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 4

Hi @Liz Brumer, I'm new to BiggerPockets and just recently came across the note investing business. I love the investment concept and have been doing a ton of research, listening to podcasts and reading books on it. 

The problem I have as a newbie is that it seems like there isn't a ton of information on the exact steps people take for due diligence. I feel like a lot of the information is withheld unless you pay $1500-2000 for an education program. I understand people wanting to be paid for their knowledge and expertise but it seems like a pretty steep price.

My wife and I are able to save about 30K per year and are thinking about investing 20K in notes. I've heard different opinions about how much you need to start with but based on what I've seen available on Paperstac it seems doable. 

Do you think this is a feasible plan for a long term, passive investment? Any suggestions?