Skip to content
×
PRO
Pro Members Get Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
$0
TODAY
$69.00/month when billed monthly.
$32.50/month when billed annually.
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here
Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties. Try BiggerPockets PRO.
x
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Cam Lawler

Cam Lawler has started 4 posts and replied 23 times.

Post: New Short-Term Villa in established Beach Resort

Cam Lawler
Pro Member
Posted
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 15

Investment Info:

Condo buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $375,000
Cash invested: $82,000

Short term beach rental in the Litchfield at the Beach resort. <$5K spent on upgrades to furniture as was purchased fully furnished.

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/919414206961110218?unique_share_id=46fc65c2-d3a4-4148-ac6f-e4d950d4a04e

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

We have had our 1bd-1ba for over a year now and it is doing great. We have found that the market is really good for 2bd places, so we started looking to add to the portfolio in that location.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

We found the deal off-market through an owners group on Facebook. We saw the post Friday morning, called and setup time to visit on Sunday, and had a handshake deal in place by end of day. It took two days to finalize everything with the lawyers.

Since we did the deal without listing, we saved 6%+ and got the property fully furnished.

How did you finance this deal?

We used traditional financing (80/20) with a local loan officer. Give this is zoned as a condo, we had to find someone that new the area and restrictions. We looked into DSCR loans, but the rate was better traditional.

How did you add value to the deal?

We made minor changes, added a bunk bed to help with families and space, and got it renter ready. The photographer did a great job on the pictures and we were able to get it on the market at the very beginning of July.

What was the outcome?

July and August are going well. We will have a negative COC return this year due to missing two major beach rental months, but we could not get the close date moved up due to seller commitments. Another unit in the same complex just closed for over $150K what we paid, so we believe we got a great deal.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

While we won't do it for all, due to location differences, I feel more comfortable doing deals without a realtor.

Post: Is kid/family focused room setup with bunk bed more important than space?

Cam Lawler
Pro Member
Posted
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Luka Milicevic:

I would try get a full bunk bed in there and not a twin, alternatively 2 twins side by side if you can fit it. 

Either alternative is better than just a queen bed.

I'd also change out the queen in the other room for a king. 

I'm assuming this is all for an STR? The sleeping situation is very important that a guest can get a good night's rest. Upgrade your queen!

@Luka Milicevic We are definitely going to switch the master to a King this year.

Post: Is kid/family focused room setup with bunk bed more important than space?

Cam Lawler
Pro Member
Posted
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 15
Quote from @James Hamling:

@Cam Lawler why not just do all of the above, in 1, a bunk-bed with trundle? 

 @James Hamling I have never seen one like this before. Interesting.

Post: Is kid/family focused room setup with bunk bed more important than space?

Cam Lawler
Pro Member
Posted
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Mark Kazmierski:

One consideration is cleaners HATE bunkbeds. They are a huge pain to strip the beds and remake. 


 Good point. Need to talk to my cleaner about this.

Post: Is kid/family focused room setup with bunk bed more important than space?

Cam Lawler
Pro Member
Posted
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 15
Quote from @John Mausteller:

I would consider doing a built in bunk maybe - if the ceilings are high enough you could do a comfortable one - even queen over queen or a twin over queen.   You could also do a trundle under each queen bed - so that adds two extra beds, even tho in separate rooms.  If you do a twin over twin with the queen room, I’d make sure it was very sturdy - or built in.  If the space is super tight, I’d consider a different approach. 

@John Mausteller was doing some space measurements and looks like the best spacing I could do with separate beds would be 36” between but shoved up against the wall on one side. Is this an issue for guests if they can only enter the bed on one side?

Post: Is kid/family focused room setup with bunk bed more important than space?

Cam Lawler
Pro Member
Posted
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Michael Baum:

We have a room dedicated to kids here at our lake house. Never had an issue with the bunkbeds in that room. I did make sure they were adult rated as we often have adults who use them.

Here is a pic -

 @Michael Baum that room looks awesome for kids! If we had a third room, I think we would do a bunk room like that.

Post: Is kid/family focused room setup with bunk bed more important than space?

Cam Lawler
Pro Member
Posted
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 15
Quote from @John Underwood:

Why not do a twin over Queen or Queen over Queen bunk beds to not limit that room so much to just kids?

@John Underwood could probably do a bunk over the queen. That might workout for sure.

Post: Is kid/family focused room setup with bunk bed more important than space?

Cam Lawler
Pro Member
Posted
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Sarah Kensinger:

If you're marketing to families, you could put a twin bunk in the room with a pull-out couch. Or if there's enough room even two sets of twin bunks. Lots of STR have bunk rooms and there are many options available that would be safe. Although I would change the light fixture if it's a ceiling fan. Think about who you want to stay in your property and tailor the entire place for that market. It makes deciding what to have at the property easier and draws in the niche you're looking for.

@Sarah Kensinger We definitely want families as this location is perfect for them. We won't be budget priced, so don't want the place to feel that way.

Will need to check on the ceiling fan for sure! Don't remember in the walkthrough.

Post: Is kid/family focused room setup with bunk bed more important than space?

Cam Lawler
Pro Member
Posted
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Josh Kristoff:

@Cam Lawler - kids will sleep anywhere (+4 here), just make sure it's safe. But if you're asking an ROI question, that is all about a little bit of market research - who visits and why do they? When they are making a selection of where to stay, is there an abundance of supply that will meet their needs, or are you differentiating your product by offering this special space. Ie, if there are 300 units but only 50 cater to families with kids, consider the income potential of competing in that smaller segment of the market by being more purposeful in your offering. Families tend to travel more seasonally (school) so bear that in mind you may not be attractive year round. Critically thinking about your spaces is a crucial step to beating your competition and earning quality bookings - Good luck!

 @Josh Kristoff We know we get a lot of families in our 1/1, and in some cases 6 people (we make sure to explicitly let them know in a pre-registration follow-up communication that one of the beds is a sofa and almost everyone is good with this).

We are also checking with other owners in the area on what they are seeing since this is our first 2/2 at the beach.

Post: Is kid/family focused room setup with bunk bed more important than space?

Cam Lawler
Pro Member
Posted
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Kerry Baird:

I use bunk beds for our big family sized STR. It is a twin over a double, and has a twin trundle. On the other side of the room is a loft bed, which is a twin.

My smaller house has two side by side doubles.  The ceilings are lower and it feels tight in that space, so we opted not to use bunks.

I also am aiming to not have too many people per bathroom in my properties.  The big house has 5 bathrooms so can handle the extra people, while the smaller house is a 4/2 and having so many people sharing a bathroom would be onerous for guests.

 Thank you @Kerry Baird. I need to check the ceiling size, but I think we are good there. This is just a 2/2 so should be good on bathroom space. Good thinking there.