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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 3 posts and replied 20 times.

Post: A Great Tenant Can’t Make Rent

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Quote from @Joe Villeneuve:

You probably should have worded your question differently.  What you should have said was, "I have a tenant that's been with me for 2 years.  She takes really good care of the place, but she's going to be 900 short this month, and states she's having a hard time making rent every month" What should I do?".  Notice I left the word "great" out of the question.

If I restated your actual question, it would read like this:  "I have a tenant that I've had for 2 years that takes really good care of the place.  Unfortunately, I have to pay 900 of her rent this month, and I find out I've come close to having to come up with part of her rent for a number of the previous months.  What should I do?"  Notice the word "great" is still missing.


 Wtf? When did I say I was paying her rent hahah! Whatever. I’m deleting BP. Looks like a massive circle jerk!

Post: A Great Tenant Can’t Make Rent

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Quote from @James Hamling:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @James Hamling:
Quote from @Account Closed:

Help! I have a great tenant.... 

....she will be $900 short on rent this month and she says it is getting harder to pay every month.....

She has never been late or given issues.... (blah, blah, insert bleeding heart here, blah, blah....)

CORRECTION: She's a HORRIBLE tenant! Full-stop!

Tenant's have 2 job's, TWO: 
1- Pay-You're-RENT!
2- Follow the Rules. 

So a tenant who doesn't pay is a "Great Tenant".... 

If you want to run a charity by all means run a charity but don't speak such insanity that letting customers STEAL is ok, it's not. A person goes to fuel station, pumps 20 gal of gas but only has $ to pay for 5gal, what happens???? 


Jesus dude. Have you not read any of my other responses? She’s been with us for two years and takes better care of the place than any of my other tenants. Turns out that it’s not that she can’t pay, but wants to buy her own place. Christ BP is a joke.

Well heck Cameron, let's really get things fixed up here because tell ya what, I'm more then happy to rent any/all of your properties and I'll be an even greater tenant; I'll happily strive to pay you half of your rents because, well as chance has it I'm also saving up to buy another place, always, lol.... 

And ah, yeah, I'll keep em in excellent condition to. I mean, I'm gonna rent em and take full rent's but hey, long as I'm almost paying your rent it's ok, right. 


 A bunch of cynical bas tards. I don’t need this man. I’ve been doing fine on my own. Peace!

Post: A Great Tenant Can’t Make Rent

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Quote from @James Hamling:
Quote from @Account Closed:

Help! I have a great tenant.... 

....she will be $900 short on rent this month and she says it is getting harder to pay every month.....

She has never been late or given issues.... (blah, blah, insert bleeding heart here, blah, blah....)

CORRECTION: She's a HORRIBLE tenant! Full-stop!

Tenant's have 2 job's, TWO: 
1- Pay-You're-RENT!
2- Follow the Rules. 

So a tenant who doesn't pay is a "Great Tenant".... 

If you want to run a charity by all means run a charity but don't speak such insanity that letting customers STEAL is ok, it's not. A person goes to fuel station, pumps 20 gal of gas but only has $ to pay for 5gal, what happens???? 


Jesus dude. Have you not read any of my other responses? She’s been with us for two years and takes better care of the place than any of my other tenants. Turns out that it’s not that she can’t pay, but wants to buy her own place. Christ BP is a joke.

Post: A Great Tenant Can’t Make Rent

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Quote from @Linda S.:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Linda S.:

@Account Closed,

This is a slippery slope of complaining, and she is hoping you will lower rent.     Let me just say, of all the tenants I have thought were "great tenants" ... only 10% did I think that after they moved out and I saw the turnover.     90%, I just thought.. oh wow,  all you did was actually pay on time. 

I'd absolutely let her out of the lease, and suggest she find some place more affordable.   It's not your job to solve her problems.


 See my above comments. Also, she’s never asked me to lower rent, she’s never been late, and I won’t lower rent. I was hoping by posting this that people would have some out of the box solutions besides stating the obvious.


 Tenants don't ask specifically, they hint they will leave if you don't do something.    The only out of the box solution, is to use her deposit this month, and increase her rent $50-100.


 She’s moving in with dad to save money to buy a house. Either way, topic is closed. Thank you for the tip. I hadn’t thought of that one, but that seems like a slippery slope as well.

Post: A Great Tenant Can’t Make Rent

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Quote from @Colleen F.:

@Cameron H. She isn't a great tenant anymore if she can't pay the rent. This is the beginning of the end.


 She’s leaving so she can live with her dad and save for a house. Good for her. I guess the “I can’t pay” was an excuse, but she finally leveled with me.

Post: A Great Tenant Can’t Make Rent

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Quote from @Mark Cruse:

@Account Closed I know you said it wasnt directed at me but either way I'm not sure what you are looking for. There are dozens of professional landlords here who read what you said and took the time out to share their perspectives with you. Everyone was trying to help. If you cant handle the responses you dont like and are only receptive to the ones that make you feel good, clearly BP aint for you. However, if you want honest and professional opinions from hundreds of years of collective working knowledge,  than this is the place. Man, I wish I had this spot when I was first starting out. People here have took those lumps and are assisting others in clearing hurdles. I  wish you the best but this is a rough biz and you may not always get something exactly how you wish to hear it. With all due respect, so far I have not seen one BS response. 

All of the comments joking around or stating the obvious are NOT helping. I was looking for any out of the box solutions that anyone has done in the past. Like letting her sublease or putting her in a cheaper property (which o offered to do btw). 

I don’t care if it makes me feel good or not, I was just reaching out for some real world experience besides people suggesting we hook up or that she is trying to get me to lower the rent. Like I said, she’s a good tenant and I would like to keep her if I can. I’m already having to evict someone else this week because he only paid half of his rent. (This person genuinely is trying to get over on me with the “I’ll have it tomorrow, I’ll have it next week” bs).

I guess I’m just baffled because I was wanting some real world experience from experienced investors on what people have done in the past to keep a good tenant. Not people telling me she’s trying to get me to lower the rent or get in bed with her. maybe I should have worded my topic or question differently, my fault.

I even said “sounds like I’m losing this one”. As in, she’s leaving because she can’t pay. No where did I suggest I was going to let her live there for free 🤡’s

Post: A Great Tenant Can’t Make Rent

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Quote from @Linda S.:

@Account Closed,

This is a slippery slope of complaining, and she is hoping you will lower rent.     Let me just say, of all the tenants I have thought were "great tenants" ... only 10% did I think that after they moved out and I saw the turnover.     90%, I just thought.. oh wow,  all you did was actually pay on time. 

I'd absolutely let her out of the lease, and suggest she find some place more affordable.   It's not your job to solve her problems.


 See my above comments. Also, she’s never asked me to lower rent, she’s never been late, and I won’t lower rent. I was hoping by posting this that people would have some out of the box solutions besides stating the obvious.

Post: A Great Tenant Can’t Make Rent

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Quote from @Karl B.:

Do you have any properties with cheaper rent?

In this supposed 'greatest economy ever' I've had a few tenants within the past week tell me they won't be renewing because they can't afford it. One tenant is moving in with friends (he did ask if I had a 3-4 bedroom and I have several but neither will be ready in time) and the other tenant just had a baby so I don't know if she's moving in with her boyfriend or what's going on but sadly things like this will occur more and more often in this economy. 

This. Thank you for a real response.

Post: A Great Tenant Can’t Make Rent

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Quote from @Mark Cruse:

In the past I have always functioned in the class D space which meant its challenging at times to get very good tenants. They are out there but you have to weed through a lot to get them. Because of this, I'm forced to give all kinds of breaks and leeway. I'm naturally a nice person so its not that hard for me. I just depends on the situation. However, without question you are setting yourself up for a problem here. Any experience landlord here, can see what you presented and will clearly tell you its a problem. Like many said, it wont get better. You are running a business, not a charity. If she cant pay her rent you go find the next great tenant who can. Believe me, everyone has a story of why its so hard and why they cant pay. You allow this, it will be a story every month which equates to you paying. If you desire to pay her rent than oh well, but try to tell Well Fargo or the Nisssan dealer its hard to pay your note and see if they let you keep the asset. 

By the way, this comment isn’t directed specifically towards you Mark:


 Jesus Christ I wish I didn’t post this now. She is leaving by the way. I just wanted to explore any options besides the obvious like letting her lease out rooms. 

You’re right I’m not running a charity. I had no intention of lowering the rent. I have a margin that I operate on, period. I guess I should have been more specific in my post.

I offered to put her in a cheaper unit and the truth is, she is moving in with her dad so that she can save money and buy her own place. Kudos to her.

I do inspections on all of my properties every three months when I go in to change the air filter, check for leaks, and general cleanliness. I’ll say, her tenancy is the only one where the property looks better now than it did when she moved in. I wish I could say the same for all of my tenants. THATS why she was as a good tenant. I can’t fault her for bettering herself though.

I’m done with this thread though. Too many bs responses whenever I didn’t ask for them.  Like I said, maybe it’s my fault for not offering more info.

Post: A Great Tenant Can’t Make Rent

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Quote from @Nathan Gesner:

Let her go before this turns into a disaster. She already sounds a little "off-center" and I suspect she's not as perfect as you think she is.

Well no one is. She is a great tenant tho 👍