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All Forum Posts by: Caleb Webster

Caleb Webster has started 18 posts and replied 112 times.

Post: First Post! NE Portland Deal - cash flow or appreciation?

Caleb WebsterPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 59

Great to meet you @Jeff Stephens!

You're right - it is most definitely not a home-run but I want to cut my teeth somewhere and my own local market seemed like the best place to start. I have been scouring the MLS specifically in NE and this was definitely the best 'deal' I've seen. That said, I'm sure there are better deals out there that I'm unaware of, that I can only find through driving, mailing or the right contacts. Since I don't intend to become a wholesaler, these latter methods don't really appeal to me. 

I would prefer investing in a market like Spokane that consistently sees higher cap rate properties. The downside to this though is I'm certainly still a newbie and buying property in non-local market sounds potentially catastrophic. 

Like the rest of us you're probably a fairly busy person, but if you're interested and have the time I'd love to grab a beer or coffee with you to learn more about your angle on Portland RE and maybe how I can help you out too. 

Post: First Post! NE Portland Deal - cash flow or appreciation?

Caleb WebsterPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 59

Hello BPers - 

This is my first post on the forums so a thousand humble apologies if I commit an unspoken faux pas like forget to complement Brandon's beard.

I've been interested in REI for a while but only recently decided to start acting on my intrigue and actually look into what it takes to make money in real estate, that's when I discovered bigger pockets. I know there is so much I don't know so I'm looking to you guys to point out my blind spots and help me see what I'm not seeing. So anyways, here's the deal:

Zillow listing

The House: 

1911 3 bed 1 bath bungalow in NE Portland, lots of curb appeal. 1100sq ft. including partial basement (AKA mouse house). Potential to add a second bath in the basement to make the basement room more of a separate unit. 5 blocks from the heart of Alberta, one of the more up-and-coming areas in Portland (7% appreciation). 

Here are the numbers:

Listing Price: $350,000

Offer Price: $300,000

Rehab (including basement bath addition): $15,000

ARV: $370,000

Assumptions made based on cash offer @ $300,000 and re-fi at 6 mo.

  • Gross Income @ $2100/month (5% vacancy deducted): $23,940
  • Expenses: $5,834 (including $3000 for maintenance & repair)
  • Cap Rate: 5.82%
  • Cash flow @ 4.11% 30 year term 20% down: $4,646 

This is obviously not a cash cow but I feel the neighborhood justifies the low initial cashflow since appreciation is skyrocketing.

What are your thoughts? Am I relying too much on appreciation to make this a good deal?