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All Forum Posts by: Rick S.

Rick S. has started 7 posts and replied 11 times.

Post: Cash on Cash equation question

Rick S.Posted
  • new york, NY
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 1

What all is included in Cash out of pocket when figuring Cash on Cash returns?

I am including, down payment, closing costs, rennovations, monthly mortgage / insurance / taxes while the home was vacant. Is this correct to do?

Post: Cash on Cash Returns

Rick S.Posted
  • new york, NY
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 1

Thanks all for the comments. I am looking into South Florida - Miami and Ft. Lauderdale. The home is a 3BR 2 BA in an upper middle class area with great schools. So, I guess from what I read, CCR of 5 to 10% is fine based on my target area?

Post: Cash on Cash Returns

Rick S.Posted
  • new york, NY
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 1

What kind of Cash on Cash return is typical for a financed, SFH in a blue collar area in FL? From things I read on this site, some people are getting 20 - 30+%... from my calculations I am seeing 5 to 10% on homes I am interested in. Am I missing something (see below figure)?

283,000 Purchase Price
56,600 Down Payment (20%)
20,100 Rennovations
12,000 Closing Costs
88,700 Total Cash
30,000 Annual Rent
2,652 Insurance Annual
3,900 Taxes Annual
1,440 Landscaping Annual
1,200 Pool Annual
900 Vacancy Reserve Annual
1,200 Maintenance Reserve Annual
11,292 Total Annual Operating Expenses
12,600 Mortgage Annual
23,892 Total Annual Expenses
6,108 Annual Net Profit
6.9% Cash on Cash Return

Post: Cash on Cash Target Return?

Rick S.Posted
  • new york, NY
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 1

What kind of Cash on Cash return is typical for a financed, SFH in a blue collar area in FL? From things I read on this site, people are getting 20 - 30+%... from my calculations I am seeing 5 to 10% on homes I am interested in. Am I missing something?

Post: Cash on Cash return

Rick S.Posted
  • new york, NY
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 1

I have a single family home rented and I want to make sure my cash on cash return calculations make sense:

Total Cash out (includes, down payment, renovations, closing costs) = 88,700

Expenses I include: Insurance, taxes, landscaping, pool maint, mortgage payment. Are there other expenses I should add? I don't seem to have any others.

Annual Net profit = 8,928

Cash on Cash return = 8928 / 88700 = 10.1%

Does this make sense? Also, what is a target cash on cash return people are getting or striving for in today's market? Any comments and thoughts will be much appreciated!!

Post: Tenant Prospect

Rick S.Posted
  • new york, NY
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 1

I have a tenant prospect (family of 4) that need to rent my place out for 8 months because renovating their current home. After the 8 month term, the lease will go month to month until they move out.

During the screening it seems that the husband and wife carry a lot of debt, mostly mortgages and cars. They own their own business so the income is very low (I assume this is purposely done to avoid taxes). They earn money from their business about $60k combined and have another $62k in rental income. Their credit report is good, average scores are 688 and 705 (husband and wife). The history on all of their accounts is excellent, only 1 delinquency for less than 30 days.

How much weight should I give a good payment history versus debt load vs. income?

Post: Personal property converted to rental

Rick S.Posted
  • new york, NY
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 1

Thanks for the replies Steven and Bill..

Basically, it was a vacation home for us.. we purchased in 2010 and fixed it up and then rented it in 2013. We fixed it up in 2012 and had it on the market since Sept 2012 and got someone for a 3.5 month seasonal rental from 1/15/13 to 4/30/13. Trying to figure out how to handle this.

Post: Tenant Deliemma

Rick S.Posted
  • new york, NY
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 1

Try to verify what the PM is telling you... its not too hard to get some comps on rentals. If the PM is correct, just approach the person in a nice manner and say that its hard to carry a loss.. you've done it for 4 years but can't continue. You helped this person, so there should really be no hard feelings. You are well within your right to get up to market.

Post: Personal property converted to rental

Rick S.Posted
  • new york, NY
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 1

We made improvements to our personal property in 2011. We began marketing the property as a rental in mid 2012. Can we add the improvements made in 2011 to our cost basis for calculating depreciation?

So in other words, expenses related to land-lording and depreciation can offset GROSS rental income (not net income), correct? Any loss I have gets carried over and can be used to offset gains when the property is sold (generally speaking)?