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All Forum Posts by: Bryce Deeney

Bryce Deeney has started 6 posts and replied 38 times.

@Ryan Bertolami look near Baseline Road. D neighborhood quickly on the up. I am a local investor.

@Paul S. That’s actually why I chose Detroit as an example, because I see it (and Cleveland) mentioned all the time on BP for cash flow.

@Eric Mayer sounds like a next step strategy?

Let's play a little "which market is the best" game! Okay so here's the rules.

  • When you answer the question below, you are moving the total asset value to the new city / state, not the number of doors or actual property. You are not moving a 3 bed 2 bath 1800 sq ft home from St Louis and dropping it in Santa Clara... you are moving the same value of your real estate property to a different market.
  • Example 1: I own 2 properties in Scottsdale, but would love to instead own 20 properties in Detroit, MI for Cash Flow purposes.
  1. Example 2: I own 3 multi unit properties in Seattle, but would rather own 10 SFHs in Kansas City for IRR over the next 10 years.

Okay, so here's the question: If you had the ability to move your entire long-term rental portfolio anywhere in the United States in today's market, where would you go, and why would you move it to that particular market? Is it cash flow? appreciation? Total IRR expectations? Retirement strategy?

If you think your current strategy is the best strategy for the outcome you desire (i.e. buying OOS in Alabama for cash flow), let us know too!

I'm selfishly asking you all to play this game, as I am looking researching different markets for OOS REI, and figured we could do some think-tank together.

Ready GO!

Let's play a little "which market is the best" game! Okay so here's the rules. 

  • When you answer the question below, you are moving the total asset value to the new city / state, not the number of doors or actual property. You are not moving a 3 bed 2 bath 1800 sq ft home from St Louis and dropping it in Santa Clara... you are moving  the same value of your real estate property to a different market.
  • Example 1: I own 2 properties in Scottsdale, but would love to instead own 20 properties in Detroit, MI for Cash Flow purposes. 
  1. Example 2: I own 3 multi unit properties in Seattle, but would rather own 10 SFHs in Kansas City for IRR over the next 10 years.

Okay, so here's the question: If you had the ability to move your entire long-term rental portfolio anywhere in the United States in today's market, where would you go, and why would you move it to that particular market? Is it cash flow? appreciation? Total IRR expectations? Retirement strategy? 

If you think your current strategy is the best strategy for the outcome you desire (i.e. buying OOS in Alabama for cash flow), let us know too! 

I'm selfishly asking you all to play this game, as I am looking researching different markets for OOS REI, and figured we could do some think-tank together. 

Ready GO!

multi-units are generally only positive cash flowing if you're buying them pre-MLS. for SFHs, check out the suburbs (i.e. Cave Creek, Glendale, Buckeye, Maricopa County, Mesa, etc.). I'd also check out south of downtown. Lots of deals being made there over the past 24 months. If you ever are looking to partner with someone locally, shoot me a PM. Best of luck!

Hey Fellow BPs. I need some feedback (positive or negative - really any would be appreciated) on this deal. It's a 2 bd 1.5 bath condo in a B+ neighborhood that is likely to turn into an A-/A over the next 10 years due to light rail construction and a growing university population. Although I've steered away from condo rent-and-hold properties, I feel this neighborhood in particular provides a bit more upside than a standard condo. The seller is an elder couple that have multiple units within the condominium, but are looking to start an exist strategy as they are travelling too much to self-manage and want the extra cash. 

Current tenant has been in the unit for a few years, and really wants it to be her forever home (She's retired in her late 60's and all extended family is close by)

The property is valued at 110K, though I believe I can pick it up at 100K. I'm planning on putting 20% down and rolling closing costs into the loan (82k~ total financed). Current rent is at $900, but is going up to $940 in April (tenant's current agreement is that she pays a 4.5% increase in rent every year and is happy with that arrangement). She also has taken good care of the property - it's in very good shape and doesn't need any upgrades/paint/flooring. 

HOA is $180 per month (would be paid by me), but all other utilities are covered by the tenant. Although this deal is relatively slim CoC return now, it has a lot of potential; and I believe it would cashflow on day 1 with existing tenant and the fact that it won't require CapEx for likely several years (previous owner flipped the unit in 2018). I also believe I won't have to budget much for vacancy with the current tenant, at least for a few years (albeit stuff does happen). Contingency Plan is actually just as good though: Tenant will be at $940, and all other comparable units are at $970, and the entire 100+ unit property is at full vacancy. I called and asked to move into anything that was available and they said I could get on the wait list, but nothing is likely to come available for 3 months.  

I'm expecting CoCROI Year 1 to be 12%, Year 2 13%, & Year 5 15%. In this neighborhood, I'm also expecting appraisals to average higher over the next 5-10 years as well. Using the BP Rental calculator, the Annualized Total Return at 10 years would be 18.88%.


With all of that said; I'm still hesitant to pull the trigger, as it's a condo, which is something I'm nervous about. Mainly because it's something I'm unfamiliar with. Here's what I'm thinking:

Pros:

  • Long term tenant with built in rent increases
  • Low CapEx
  • Higher expected resale value with neighborhood upgrades
  • Low-Cost rental that cash flows
  • Can potentially pick up multiple properties within same condominium from same seller 

Cons:

  • High HOA-to-Property cost ($180 on $100K)
  • Not a SFH which is easier to force value through flipping
  • Don't own the land, just the unit
  • (What am I missing???)

Post: Allocating Cash for Downpayment

Bryce DeeneyPosted
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 31

Hi Dillon, the best advice could be given with all relevant information. How long do you believe it will take for you to save enough for a downpayment? If less than a few years, I'd recommend putting your savings into a high yield savings account (i.e. Fidelity, American Express HYSA, etc.), so you are earning 1.5-1.7% on your money but have zero risk. If you think it will take longer than a few years, you may want to open a brokerage account and focus on 'conservative' stocks to limit risk, but get 3-5% return. Keep in mind you will pay capital gains on what you earn.

Best of luck! 

High Yield SA (such as Fidelity) would be a safe, yet liquid solution. 

Post: Would you buy this property?

Bryce DeeneyPosted
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 31
Originally posted by @Andrew S.:

Does your cash flow include maint, CapEx, vacancy costs? I'd read the HOA regs.

I included them all, yes. I'm getting a copy of the HOA agreement tomorrow to read through.